• windowlicker [she/her]
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    109 months ago

    why is inclusion in an often patriarchal/misogynistic and conservative institution as marriage the end-all-be-all of queer rights? this is such an annoying talking point from liberals. i have heard american conservatives going on national stages and calling for the complete genocide of trans people, but i have not heard of anything like that from chinese politicians.

    china has a long road ahead in terms of queer rights, but compared to queer rights (and “rights” like the right to get married, right to die in an imperialist war, etc) backsliding in the west, there’s a pretty big difference.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      109 months ago

      why is inclusion in an often patriarchal/misogynistic and conservative institution as marriage the end-all-be-all of queer rights?

      Kind of reminds me of the space race and how the USSR had all these amazing achievements but America decided that the winner was the first one to land people on the moon.

    • AlpineSteakHouse [any]
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      9 months ago

      why is inclusion in an often patriarchal/misogynistic and conservative institution as marriage the end-all-be-all of queer rights?

      Legal protections mostly. If you get married, you have a right to see your spouse in the hospital. Otherwise, they’re just another person even if you’ve been living together for 50 years. You also have a right to inheritance, the right to receive pensions and 401k, etc etc. An unmarried partner is essentially left with nothing unless explicitly stated in a will and even then they don’t have all the legal protections.

      Imagine living with someone for 20 years and they get into a car wreck, you can’t see them before they die because you’re married. You get kicked out of your home because legally you’re just a roommate and have no right to stay in that house. Then, all the money your partner invested goes to their shithead parents who kicked them out as a child. None of that would happen if you were married.

      Marriage is an outdated contract but the functions it provides are still important to society.

      Edit: Obviously I support China but marriage isn’t just a “proof of love” or some other sentimental thing.

    • dokapuff
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      09 months ago

      I ain’t no fucking lib. It’s a simple standard of acceptance in society (i.e. gay people get to participate in the same governmental institutions as everyone else).

      • kristina [she/her]
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        159 months ago

        No it isn’t lmao. I care more about housing rates among LGBT people, China and Cuba are high on that list.

        Signed: yet another hexbear trans user. Weird how so many trans people on lemmy are hard left 🤔

          • Maoo [none/use name]
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            49 months ago

            If that’s the kind of logic that convinces you of things, you should check out all of the other people saying the same thing as me.

            Basically your one job as a leftist when it comes to capitalist propaganda is to not unquestioningly repeat it and guess what you’re doing, lib. And it’s in the realm of orientalism to boot. Not exactly distinguishing yourself.