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Damn, reminds me of when they announced copy and paste was coming to their phones as if it was some incredible breakthrough, and yet everyone else had it on their phones for a long time already.
Now they’re adding basic map features from a decade ago and have the gaul to suggest to their customers that it’s new and innovative?
I wonder what other old, basic phone features Apple customers just don’t have. I feel sorry for them, people playing that much for a premium device deserve better.
suggest to their customers that it’s new and innovative
I’m a big Apple critic too but to be fair that message reads pretty neutral. Where do you see the claim it’s new and innovative?
I suppose the fact that they feel the need to announce it rather than to just do it.
Anyway this is fairly standard operations for Apple. They did the same when they added widgets to iOS. Gee wow, guys thanks for adding a feature that has been in Android for about 20 years.
I mean their events are literally held to give news about updates. Revolutionary or not.
Why would they not mention stuff people could make use of, just because it’s not some amazing new things.
Events are rather decent to be honest, no that I look at them. But people do, so it’s very easy to get an overview over upcoming features.
If their events are held to give us news and updates why didn’t they tell us that the new AirPods pro2 have a new chip for extremely low latency use with their VR headset?
Because it’s not to give us news and updates, it’s to sell you on the latest flashy slab.
I mean it’s obviously not news, news. It’s marketing. Most people just don’t care about latency on a product, especially when it’s for use with another - not even released product. What do you expect?
You mean back in ios3 in 2009? I wonder what phones you think everyone else had back then.
Once again, I’m still trying to figure out how apple users can defend this. Yes, Google maps had this feature, but everytime I talk to apple users I’m always told they got their phone because “it just works!”. But then I learn that features I consider basic at best are completely missing. If my iphone should “just work” I expect the features I want to exist without another app installation. Things on iphone only seem to work if you don’t know anything better.
The ability to put home screen icons where I want them.
A back gesture that works everywhere, and doesn’t require me to hunt and peck because the app developer has invented some random unique gesture ‘because’.
Stupid thing is both of these could be added in a minor software update, but I’ve been holding by breath for a decade now…
As I have to use both platforms for development those are the things that I notice most.
A back gesture that works everywhere, and doesn’t require me to hunt and peck because the app developer has invented some random unique gesture ‘because’.
People keep saying this and yet this has literally never happened to me in 5 years of using iOS. Maybe don’t use apps developed by people that don’t know what they’re doing? Developers can disable the back button on android too if they hate their users.
They can’t… in android the OS defines the navigation. Back works everywhere. You can do wierd stuff to make back do silly things and go to the wrong screen, but that takes a bit of effort.
In iOS, so far I’ve seen… swipe left, swipe right, swipe from the bottom, click ‘back on a button on the left’, tap on the screen to bring up a button then click that…
Some actions are impossible… you click on a link in mail to see for example a tracking number… for me a daily occurrence. There is no back gesture available, you have to go back to the home screen and restart the mail app, which is utterly stupid especially when you have to do it multiple times.
On android it’s simple. Want to go back? Wiggle your right thumb. Done.
The OS should define navigation. Always.
I don’t know if I understand you correctly, but it’s actually very possible to go back to the previous app with just one swipe. No need to return to home screen. I have iPhone 11 Pro (should work the same for any newer models too) and you just swipe at the bottom from left to right and it will switch to the previous app you had open. You can do the same gesture from right to left to go forward to the next app. You can continue the same to shift through all your recently opened apps.
Things on iphone only seem to work if you don’t know anything better.
Mystery resolved.
Basically iPhone users don’t know what they don’t have because they never bothered to look outside of their little walled garden. There are some good features of iPhones (like 3) but mostly they’re just been sold as a lifestyle product.
or… some people just prefer iPhone? Disliking android os doesn’t make me tech illiterate
e: for relevance, I don’t like google analytics and in its current state I consider apple a lesser of two evils (marked up hardware vs advertising company). I don’t want to spend time configuring an android phone to my tolerance levels when I can just use the same tech I’ve been using for years with hardly any issue.
Let me introduce you to the case we’re apple handed over private information to hackers pretending to be feds.
https://www.macrumors.com/2022/03/30/apple-user-data-forged-legal-requests/
I don’t see anyone in the Apple forums defending the lack of offline maps. The reaction is more along the lines of “fucking finally.”
People use Apple Maps for the Siri integration and or if they find the maps less cluttered. For long trips in dead zones, Google was always king.
To be fair, unlike previous years iphone releases I’ve seen more skepticism than normal. I fully expected diehard apple users to be resenting the removal of the lightning connector due to excess charging cables. And while those comments exist, it is a very small minority of people. However with that said I don’t fully understand the mindset of buying a phone that has limited or obsolete hardware / software. (ergo headphone jack, ergo missing software feature, ergo USB 2.0 from 23 years ago)
Apple have really turned the “let’s screw over our customers” dial up to 11 this year.
The normal iPhone will be limited to 2.0 USB speeds whereas the Pro will have access to 3.0 USB speeds. There’s literally no reason to limit the normal iPhone to 2.0 speeds except to be dicks. I fully expect the likes of Lewis Rossman to announce that it’s just a software setting that can be changed if you jailbreak your iPhone
Idk, on the Pro they said the sun controller is built into the SoC. So they couldn’t just use last years soc and still give usb3 to the non-pro phones.
Or at least it would have cost more in components and design. But maybe they should have done it. Idk, I doubt the typical iPhone user cares.
Downloading Google maps is an option. I have never used Apple maps.
Out of curiosity, how often do you talk about smartphone choice? I’ve never once heard “it just works” in real life, nor have I really talked about what phone I use or why. It’s not a subject I’d purposefully avoid either.
Most apple users never even wanted or used an Android phone, so our collection of basic features are different than theirs (ours is superior, of course)
Apple devices are just status symbols. And as such, too many people that cannot really afford them buy the devices and have to tell themselves there’s a rational reason to. That’s also why they cheer record financial figures, passionately fight criticism or tell people having technical issues that it’s their fault. It’s basically Stockholm syndrome.
I’ve yet to have an android (and I’ve had a few…) that kept up reasonable performance for more than ~2 years. And yes, I’m talking about flagship Samsung, htc, lg, and google phones.
Android has a ton of extra functionality, but while a tough choice, I have been fine using my iPhones. My iPhone 7 lasted 4 years before I decided to upgrade. And my iPhone 11 has been in service for 3 years, though released 4 years ago. Oh and when I broke my 11s screen, the 7 was a perfectly serviceable backup while I waited for a replacement screen to come in, even at 7 years old.
There’s apparently 25% of iPhone users running 4+ year old phones. We’re not your typical status symbol idiot.
That it just works does not mean I’m bound to Apple apps only. It just works includes having fantastic third party apps that do the job when Apples are lacking.
Calendar, mail, maps, music, password manager and the likes are such for me. But it still “just works”.
Missing features at OS level is one thing. But missing features in a goddamn app, when there are alternatives? Common…
Marketing.
You could give an iOS user a current Android phone that has an iOS-like launch screen and an Apple logo on the back and tell them it’s the new iPhone with a whole bunch of new features.
I mean, why don’t we just do this anyway? iPhone is obsolete at this point.
I’m kind of glad the main dev team is seconded to visionOS this year. iOS 17 doesn’t have anything too crazy but the QoL improvements and long-standing feature gaps like this one being closed are really where the attention needs to be.
Apple has really polished Maps, Mail, Safari and Home over the iOS 17 beta period and I hope that continues during the minor updates.
A tad bit late.
And still the biggest bullshit on iPhones is still the lack of clip board and how the copied item will vanish after 20 mins… my ADHD brain won’t remember what I needed that copied thing for because as soon as I see my Home Screen I will end up on a different app and spend an hour on there
For offline usage, I prefer using Here WeGo (I like download the full map instead).
For the other 90% usage, Waze and Apple Maps are good enough.
For open source alternatives there is Map.me and Organic Maps.
Maps.me is neither open-source nor free, I believe they even introduced IAP at some point.
Organic Maps though is FOSS and it’s by the same developers. They both use OpenStreetMap mapping data, developers of which created Osmand which is just orders of magnitude more customisable. Quite a powerhouse of a navigation app, but may be overkill for some people.
Isn’t this it right here?
last release march 2020;
according to the OSM Wiki, Maps.me was sold in November 2020 and the source code was locked down. The original developers forked the app, reused old code and created Organic Maps.
wtf are you on about, bot; that’s not even a yt link
