• Alcor@slrpnk.net
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    It’s ridiculous to me that there are still people volunteering to moderate, Reddit had such a good deal with running mostly on free labor that is satisfied with some scraps here and there.

    And what do they do? Turn the people who are sustaining their business and ask for nothing in return hostile towards them over some penny pinching.

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      I was surprised as well but after watching some streamers doing r/place I learned that there are quite a lot of users who never used 3rd party apps and weren’t really touched by all the protests… The amount of questions “who is u/Spez” in the chat was also quite high. So they might have driven away a large chunk of the power users. But the remaining and the regular users are enough to keep it running I guess. As sad as this is.

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        Yes, user-wise this won’t really negatively impact Reddit this is why I called it penny pinching, they weren’t losing out on huge amounts of money with the 3rd party apps. What I was mostly referring to is that moderators are frequently power users who either used 3rd party apps personally or used them because the moderator tools inside of them were way better than Reddit’s native ones.

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        I had a friend of a friend who worked at Wizards of the Coast, and it’s a revolving door there. There’s no shortage of people eager to work on games that mean so much to them, so it’s easy to abuser workers and cut the loose if there’s any hint that they might start demanding better treatment, or a better direction for the brands, or especially organizing and collectively bargaining.

        It’s kind of the same thing here. There’s no shortage of servile users eager to be scabs. It’s going to lead to stifling and unpleasant communities in the long run, but they don’t really care. So long as they can slow down the appearance of enshittification, and keep reddit.com from being full of reasons why the site is a bad investment, they can cash out in the IPO and leave investors holding the bag.

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        Bit off-topic, but that sub has always been a prime example of why the argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy.

        Very popular, very bland, inoffensive, boring and vanilla ‘fashion’.

        I mean, better than walking around in 90s basketball shorts, but if I was forced to dress like someone in the GAP catalogue, I’d feel dead inside.

        That’s not ‘fashion’. That’s a smart casual uniform for an office world that is dying post-covid, and for men who primarily want to avoid being noticed for the way they dress.

        People who worry about the colour of their belt and shoes not following arbitrary rules, because they’re children pretending to be adults, rather than adults who buy and wear clothes that they think look nice and make them look nice, and have run out of fucks to give because they’re men not boys.

        This comment is far too harsh, I’m being deliberately hyperbolic.

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          Is it that difficult to let people enjoy finding clothes they like to wear? The subreddit had 5.4 million subscribers. That’s 5.4 million people who disagreed with your opinion. Hopefully that gives you some perspective.

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            People like this love when their elitist or exclusionary opinions are countered by the masses. Just makes them feel even better. Source, I was one of them in my younger days.

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              No. I don’t.

              I find it depressing that young men feel forced to conform to societal and corporate expectations, rather than developing their own sense of style and buying the clothes they actually want to wear because they’re old enough to have run out of fucks to give and lack the confidence to take risks.

              I get that in your twenties and thirties, you’re at the bottom of the corporate ladder, but live a little.

              I mean, imagine if the only ice cream flavour was vanilla. That’s what that sub was often like. I mean, it’s fashion. Wear something fun or exciting, rather than dressing like an NPC all the time. You also need to live outside the office and you’re not losing a promotion because your chinos were the wrong colour.

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                  And I have zero problem with that. Quite the opposite.

                  Wear full tech wear. Wear a bright orange tracksuit and peacock the shit out of life. Wear a turqoise gown with gold bangles and flounce around like you’re Jesus.

                  But a lot of what that sub was about, wasn’t that. It was often about arbitrary rules and stuffy outfits.

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            Just because an opinion is popular, does not mean it is correct. That is literally the argumentum ad populum logical fallacy.

            And having lurked there, many of the people didn’t visit to find clothes they liked wearing. The went there to find clothes that would conform to corporate/societal expectations and look ‘smart’.

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              They probably didn’t know that you in particular, u/Hyperreality, held this opinion, or they surely wouldn’t think this way. Shout your ideas from the rooftops bro. Put in an article in a newspaper. Let the people know and I’m sure they’ll come to their senses.

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                Or they could read any fashion magazine, style guide or ask a woman or a well dressed friend for advice, rather than relying on the advice of internet strangers.

                That sub has always been a bit too online. If you want fashion advice, who would you ask? Someone who seems to always look great? Or someone anonymous who spends far too much time on an internet forum?

                Have a little fun, buy something that makes you look good and feels comfortable.

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          this just in: general population gives generally accepted opinions 🤯🤯

          most people who visit MLF are just trying to fix their worse -than-“bland” style. once they learn how to dress and grow comfortable with a style, they’ll simply move on to their own niche sub