Yet theyre not a surveillance state to the same extend as the EU. So overall better I think.

The same government that last minuted attached this amendment to an unrelated directive asks you to trust them with your most private information. 🙄

Why’s that?

I was thinking asian/middle east, ideally a place that does not care for US/EU

They’re experts on violating other’s (sexual) freedom.

What an odd thing to brag about. Sounds like you handled it perfectly :)

Yes it’s a directive. Currently it passed the EU commission (it’s their proposal) and parliament. It still needs to pass council.

After that, each member country of the EU must implement it in their respective country laws.

It’ll have to be a VPN provider outside of the EU.

How does one “follow the tokens” then?

We don’t know what they do with the information, as it’s closed source.

Assuming it’s based on this EU prototype:

They don’t know why it was requested, but do know who, where and when.

So they gather the logs of A, the token provider. Is the target present? They have his token. They also see where and when the token was used. Did you have a fun time yesterday evening, on your phone at home, on websites B, C and D?

Next up, if they want even more detail, gather the logs of B, look for the token. That way they can pinpoint the exact search terms, categories, watch time, etc

In summary: centralizing the de-anonymisation this way makes mass surveillance easier than if it were decentralized, in sometimes foreign jurisdictions.

It also shifts the conversation away from the best solution: don’t deanonymise in the first place.

Yes. Anyone that can request both the logs of this third party and the website fully deanonymises the users.

Who could have this access? The same people that last minute added this amendment to unrelated legislation. It’s even easier this way: they have to strongarm only a few “age verification providers”, then follow the tokens.

Additionally, the amendment is a stepping stone to outlaw other privacy techniques such as VPNs.

Foreign websites still don’t comply? We have no choice but to build the great firewall of EU. For the children.

I think the overarching theme is that the EU wants more and more power and control.

In the case you describe: it’s by taking away freedom from software providers. In the case of this law, it’s by taking away freedom from their citizens.

Less agency and freedom for others, more control for and subjugation to them, is what motivates both - Fun when they do it to others, less fun now they’re doing it to you too.

Especially considering the backhanded way this amendmend was last-minute shoehorned onto unrelated legislation. They know it’s against general will and good.

“Do you want children to be exploited? No? Then do as I say”

In 2023 I was thinking how stupid puritan the Texan politician were. The EU commission and parliament had different ideas.

Turns out the incumbents in EU are very scared as politicians from outside the traditional political families are getting popular votes. And instead of looking into to mirror as to why that is happening, they blame “the internet” and go authoritarian.

Thus joining in the creation of the machinery for mass surveillance and supression.

Would be fun to see the “web of trust” develop into 2 non-connected subnets. Choose your own truth to live in.

I’m describing a next iteration of chatcontrol. The EU already proposes to have LLMs in every social app to see if you’re not communicating illegal thoughts.

Only a small change to have it alter content.

I can imagine the EU mandating AI in the browser and social apps. To keep the kids safe, ofcourse.

It will scan all the content, and modify it to a safe version, for your benefit.

“Voting started for Catalan referendum on independance The X factor Spain!”

There’s only 2 proposed problems in the article as far as I can tell. They’re not novel ideas, and the author brings no new evidence:

1. “AI”’s disruption of the labor market.
2. “AI” as magnifier of existing problems: fake news, scamming, military applications, domestic surveillance.

2/10 would not recommend the article

Skiiing maybe

People like to do what they think people should be doing in order to appear like a person

Prisoner’s dilemma solved in one comment

You shouldn’t assume what I think, especially when you are wrong.

If it walk like a duck, and quacks like a duck. Perhaps you should engage in some soul seeking :(

What you propose is an alliance where countries maintain their differences, essentially the dissolution of the EU and the return to the Europe

Again, there’s more ways to interact with others than (a) everyone is dictated top down vs (b) dog eat dog.

What I propose is voluntary democratic cooperation. An improvement upon the current structure with more respect for everyone.

“In Russia they’re doing it too” is to me insufficient motivation to lessen our democratic basis and individual freedoms.

I’m afraid that you don’t understand how the executive power works.

How it should work is a legislative branch to propose laws, a parliament to vote on it, an executive to implement it. The bastardization of the process by the EU is that the executive initiates legislation, and isn’t directly elected.

That’s why they can repeatedly propose the same unpopular law, without any fear of losing power.