• dinkusmann
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    So you pay the guy who pays the guy who kills the animals and that makes it fine? That’s the rule? There needs to be 2 degrees of separation? The animal is being killed because you created the demand. The guy wouldn’t have paid the guy if you weren’t going to pay him.

    Edit: oh you’re a troll. And a reasonably funny troll to tbh. Edit Edit: I’m not correcting “to tbh” because it’s really funny

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      you pay the guy who pays the guy who kills the animals

      most people don’t do that, either. meat packers will get it from the abattoirs, who will then sell it to suppliers, and there might be two or three suppliers before anyone sells it to a grocer or restaurant.

      the animal isn’t killed because i create demand, except for meanings of “cause” that don’t require a causal relationship.

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      The guy wouldn’t have paid the guy if you weren’t going to pay him.

      i have no agreement to purchase meat in the future. most people don’t.

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        But you will. And they know that. And they base their decisions on that.

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          they can’t know that. knowledge is a justified true belief. since the future has not happened, it has no truth value, and, as such, future knowledge is impossible. they do not know whether i will purchase meat in the future. qed

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        5 months ago

        I don’t mean it as an ad hominem. I just thought that argument was so silly you must be joking. Your argument makes hiring hitmen permissible so long as there’s at least one middle man. Unless I’ve misinterpreted you.

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          Your argument makes hiring hitmen permissible so long as there’s at least one middle man.

          no, it doesn’t. actively contracting a future action is completely disanalogous with buying a product on a shelf.