• axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    Well we’d hope the solution for Nazis is we only threaten to kill them first, before they get powerful enough to start organizing. And if they surrender and submit peacefully to re-education, maybe that’s ok in some rare instances

    If they’re already organized I suggest cluster munitions or have them lined up against a nice brick wall

      • Egon [they/them]
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        11 months ago

        “Well what if it was actually something different huh? Didn’t think about that, did ya?”
        speech-r ) smuglord

        Being a nazi, as opposed to black or jewish, is an ideological choice and not a question of race. That choice is a choice were you decide to pursue violent means in order to exterminate those of other races. Do you think a person pursuing genocide should be stopped? If you do, what do you propose should happen when they oppose being stopped?

        • @Filipdaflippa@lemmy.ml
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          If you grew up in a racist household and that’s all you knew, is that still your fault? I’m genuinely asking what you think about a child that’s been indoctrinated into that lifestyle.

          • iie [they/them, he/him]
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            i mean it’s basically a trolley problem. whether or not we blame someone who was born into naziism, at some point we have to stop them before they hurt others. and if the nazis are armed and organized, we start running out of peaceful ways to stop them.

          • Egon [they/them]
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            1411 months ago

            It’s not that persons fault at all, but I think you’re making a mistake here in making a systemic question into an individual. We can recognize that no person is inherently “evil” (though I hate to use that word, I’m just lacking for words), but also recognize that the person is a member of an ideological group that is, and as long as the person is a member of said group, they’re opposed due to the fact that they are working towards genociding minorities.

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                11 months ago

                fedposting
                So you think we shouldn’t have fought the Nazis? You still won’t answer the question

              • ToxicDivinity [comrade/them]
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                311 months ago

                If I’m raised in a cult and taught all my life to hunt and kill you is that ok with you because it’s not my fault that I was born into that situation?

          • eatmyass [he/him]
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            1011 months ago

            I will respond to you with what I said to another person regarding whether we should have sympathy for southern slaveowners

            And yeah maybe they were raised that way, propagandized that way, never had a chance to form differing opinions - I don’t care. At one point they were upholding slavery and maintaining it, and I’m not going to be gentle with them while Black people were being worked to death, killed, beaten, and kept in bondage through their actions.

      • MF_COOM [he/him]
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        1711 months ago

        Just responding with a screenshot so you can never remove the evidence that you said something so dumb

      • ToxicDivinity [comrade/them]
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        1511 months ago

        No one is born a nazi. You choose to be a nazi because you’re a hateful bigot and you can choose to stop being a nazi. Saying it’s wrong to punish/forcefully reform nazis is like saying it’s wrong to punish child predators

      • eatmyass [he/him]
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        1511 months ago

        Hahahahahahaha “uhh what if you replaced this one word with a completely different word? Not so smart now huh” lol you’re a joke

        • @Filipdaflippa@lemmy.ml
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          111 months ago

          I love how you all hide behind whataboutism, you all have the exact same reaction which is absolutely hilarious to me. It’s all choreographed like a certain “group” y’all hate 😭

      • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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        1211 months ago

        Should we have NOT invaded Nazi Germany and stopped the holocaust?

        Was that a bad thing in your mind? Honestly confused . Killing Nazis was necessary.

          • Egon [they/them]
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            811 months ago

            You’re talking about the Nazis which were the people that perpetrated the holocaust. We think it was good to use violence, you seem to think otherwise. What did you think should’ve been done to stop the holocaust?

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                You’re talking about the Nazis. Your post was about nazis, people are responding talking about nazis. The discussion is clearly about nazis, which comes as a result of you framing the discussion about nazis. If you didn’t want it to be about nazis, but I stead your perception that leftists label political opponents “nazi” as a way to otherize them and justify political violence, then you should’ve argued that point instead.
                Do better, learn what words mean.

                And answer the question