https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/14knc6t/got_r4d_for_pirating_someone_elses_john_oliver_so/
Pirates want to stay on Reddit? This is the last group I had expected to have such a reaction, but here we are. Yes, the mod could have worded it better, but these people actually want to stick around on Reddit.
I personally find Lemmy to be a perfectly viable alternative to Reddit for such subs. I wonder about the reasons why these people still don’t want to move.
Why wouldn’t they want to stay? It works for them. Before ideology, before morality, before any other thing you can conceive of is plain, simple convenience. And Reddit is certainly convenient. Once enough users leave, they’ll leave, too.
It’s so hard to join lemmy now, and everything lags in lemmy even just an upvote…
Sorry to hear that, but I’m guessing that might be related to your specific instance. So far I’m really happy with mine, but some are evidently struggling to keep up with the influx of Rexxiters. (and bots, maybe?)
Anyway, nothing preventing you from hitting the Fediverse from a different instance, yeah?
my theory is that most users don’t know or care about the api changes or the deaths of the third party apps. and most of the ones who do know dont care.
id also guess that a lot of people are hesitant to join the fediverse due to a choice paralysis, kinda similar to Linux distros. altho joining an instance is not actually all that complicated most people just dont want to have to bother making the choice of which one to join, and others cant be bothered to learn how instances work. ppl think it’s complicated because it’s different and new to them and ppl generally don’t like change 🤷♀️
“Why fix what isn’t broken?” Most people don’t have the foresight, they live in the present and it’s like nothing has changed. When the realization hits, they might migrate to lemmy if reddit was important to them.
Personally, a video should help. A lot of people are visual learners. And the size of the community at reddit is small… that’s also a factor. If their friend are coming here, they’ll come here.
I feel like they don’t understand the point of the john oliver posts. Someone said it only turns the community to shit. Yeah, that is LITERALLY the reason so that people migrate away and turn reddit into a mess after spez’s decision. Oh, how quickly people forgot about the protest, spez was right.
My favourite are the comments of people saying “return the sub back to normal, this shit is stupid and isn’t doing anything! I don’t even use Apollo so I don’t care” - posted from Boost for Reddit.
A lot of people don’t even understand. They genuinely think this only affects Apollo and that Christian is being a baby lol. Can’t wait to see their faces when their app stops working and they whine.
to be fair what’s happening is the folks who didn’t jump ship are now the loudest voices. Good luck with that brain drain reddit
I have only just joined over here on Lemmy, so let me try to explain what took me so long. Reddit, even though a shit hole, is easier to use and has ingrained itself with google for even easier use. Lemmy is a nightmare to try and find boards ya interested in for common people, as each .com is it’s own sign up and own set of boards, it’s not you go to one site, sign up and find what ya want, you need to know each little lemmy.insertnamehere to find a certain ammount of boards.
This is just my experience and everyone could be different, basically put, laziness and simplicity i think are the two main reasons.
EDIT: not to mention that just took about 5mins to post… wtf is up with this site?
I do not think that is the case. You simply need to toggle the search for communities to “all” instead of “local”. That should search every federated instance, which becomes very similar to searching for communities on Reddit
To be fair, anyone who actually cares is not on reddit anymore, so you’re seeing the worst of the worst takes.
A lot of people on r/piracy are pirates by convenience, not by ethics. The sub being shut down is not convenient for them. It’s really sad to see how many people have the attention span of a goldfish, and can’t think beyond “this isn’t convenient for me today.”
Pirates by ethics = root of socialism, anarchism?
Pirates by convenience = root of capitalism and imperialism?
Because Lemmy isn’t as conveniently accessed, and it’s just slow.
It’s also confusing.
Can you mention the specific points of confusion that have impeded your experience here?
Trying to find a community for a popular topic isn’t the easiest in the world… it’s a bit like the old days where you had to find a good forum for the topic you wanted to chat about.
I just took a look at one of the most popular recent “mutiny posts” and wow, it really has gone to shit. I get that some people might not care about the API mess, but they actively hate the mods there. Half the comments are just unhinged and are still upvoted.
There was even an unabashed antivaxer comment from some guy drawing some sort of insane comparisons between mrna and r/Piracy mods and even that was upvoted lol
I don’t know if the numbers back this up but I hope that the reason for this is just that the reasonable people moved to Lemmy and it’s just the crazies left there…
Ease of use and size of user base
People are dumb bud… there is, just a lot of plain dumb people out there.
Why? Idk bud, people are dumb just that no more questions about it. People are dumb.
It’s important to note that the default state of people is being dumb. It takes effort, exposure and more qualities/circumstances during a person’s early years to not be dumb.
Many people just didn’t grow up in an environment that allows that, it’s actually a quite specific one that doesn’t happen automatically.
And once the early life phase is over, mental plasticity is a lot lower, so very very few people go from “dumb” to “not dumb”.
If you want to be less dumb, I can really recommend https://lesswrong.com/rationality
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
- George Carlin
/r/Piracy
That’s not the real games piracy sub anyways. The true successor of the scene-watching community is and always was /r/CrackWatch and even there people are very aware that they’re not contributors, just spectators. So basically, it was a place for movies piracy, and movies piracy is and always been the most piss easy, top result on google piracy around. I haven’t gone on a single website to pirate movies in a decade, shit is all searchable either directly on qBit and deluge or on tracker tools.
They don’t want to come over, so what? They’re irrelevant. A wiki service reddit, barely anything else. A place for people who unironically install uTorrent and don’t even know what the u stands for.
This is actually something I think might be concerning in the long run. Reddit’s current direction has driven away a contingent of users who tend to share similar moral values; Lemmy’s userbase tends pretty left with a lot of content here being anti-capitalist and pro-marginalized groups. It makes sense that decentralized federated networks would be attractive to those subsets of users.
What I’m afraid of is that this will create a vacuum in which Reddit becomes even more of a breeding grounds for right-wing rhetoric and propaganda without the presence of these users to balance it out a bit. I know that as a Reddit-addicted teen, I hovered dangerously close to some pretty disgusting ideologies. Thankfully I discovered some leftist communities which expanded my narrow worldview and veered me to a much happier path. I don’t think reddit as a platform will die, but I fear those communities might, and I shudder to think at what reddit could become without them.
So basically Twitter v2
Yeah I don’t really think left nor right should be thrown in the mix. I don’t “reddit” much at all, but I’m def more right than I am left. I think it’s quite out of touch to believe Reddit is just right wing and is gonna get flooded with even more right wing people. In my experience I’ve seen more left wing on reddit. Maybe that’s just me. Or maybe our definitions of what really is right wing and left wing are a bit different. Idc much either way as long as I can see what I want online.
Just before this gets too off topic, please remember this is c/piracy, not c/politics. Any further political posts will get removed.
I have the opposite question, what trait of a pirate makes you think they would leave reddit?
I’d expect a general understanding of the inherent weaknesses and drawbacks of centralised infrastructure.
Those are not traits of a pirate.
Whether pirates have wanted or not if they pirated long enough they have experience lot of things being killed off. Torrent sites they relied on dying and disappearing for good like rarbg. Recent reddit causality being r/newyuzupiracy. Direct links being killed off like megaupload. Discord channels dedicated to piracy or jailbreaking being banned and killed off (why isn’t stuff like matrix more common instead of hoping Discord ignores them?).
The constant search for new methods to piracy p2p, torrents, usenet, i2p, irc, discord bots, telegram bots, etc.
It’s not an area that has stability so pushes people to constantly be searching and finding new ways to pirate. Being on centralized places has always been borrowed time. Piracy in the long run always ends up having to search for a new home, better places, better methods. It’s a nomadic lifestyle in the digital space by the nature of it and the hostility towards pirates from those in power.
But, one thing that has remained a constant has been decentralization. With no better representation of that spirit than bittorrent. As long as a few people have it the source remains alive.
Wait rarbg was shut down?
Are there any ones as good?
Check the megathread on the side it has everything.
But, from what is recommended on there I have found torrentgalaxy coming close to rarbg.
Thanks for the tip!
Someone should point them to what happened over at r/assholedesign
I would, but I don’t know how to do that without breaking the first ruleMany subs there have 1000x the users that the equivalent subs here do. That does make a difference.
