Come on… Do you really think that multiple governments are like “Ah, Israel says that, so it must be true. No need for further research. We ignore that we have intelligence agencies… We cancel support for UNWRA now!!!”.
I don’t suggest shit for Israel to do because they’re as out of control as the Nazis once were
WTF am I reading there??? Is this a new hobby? Comparing everything with Nazi Germany? Let me guess… Netanyahu is as bad as Hitler?
I’m sorry, but I don’t even want to read the rest of it… It’s too much of a buzzword bingo at this point…
I just want to tell you what I think is the “best” outcome at this point. And I think, the “best” outcome would be a permanent solution, not what we had before, because that led us to where we are now…
Steps:
Hamas loses power completely (their main goal is to get rid of Israel, so there is no permanent peace with them)
Netanyahu loses power (even far before the massacre happened, he proved that he is not interested in a permanent peace)
New governments agree on a 2-state-solution (or 3-state-solution)
There is no step 3 without step 1 and 2.
IMO, most of the other “solutions” (especially those that let Hamas in power) bring “peace” for a few years, but make sure that afterwards, this decade-long disaster continues for many more decades. This shit needs to end forever.
The US Administration admitted that their only source for the accusations about UNWRA employees in Gaza was “intelligence provided by Israel”, so clearly their decision was taken based entirelly on “we trust Israel” and then the usual suspects followed very quickly, all or almost all being the ones who always declared “unwavering” support for Israel (one could call them The Cohalition Of Racists since they’re also the ones that always harped about the whole “Jewish Nation” thing, a concern that only makes sense for racists), clearly motivated by something else than the conclusions of a proper, independent, investigation of the claims.
There was a permanent solution, then a far-right Israeli extremist murdered Isaak Rabin, then Bibi got elected by the majority of Israelis and promptly renegued on the permanent solution.
Renegotiating a 2-state solution is just a stalling strategy from the racists because they know everytime it was done in the past it just served to force the Palestinians to accept more of the status quo of land stollen by Israel in the meanwhile with their “colonates”, and was always eventually reneguede upon by Israel when it stopped being usefull and in order to capture more land.
More such negotiations now would just reward Israel for taking more land and killing more Palestinians since the last such negotiated “solution” (on which Israel as always renegued once it wasn’t useful for them anymore) and then proceeded to steal more land and kill more innocents, which is pretty rationale for Ukraine not accepting a peace settlement with Russia were they concede more land to Russia: there will never be permanent peace when the invader again and again steal lands, gets to keep the land they stole with a “negotiated solution” and then after consolidating once again does the same thing all over again taking even more land.
The only solution is to go back enough that Israel loses all it has stollen in the meanwhile and all the gains from stealling Palestinian land since the Far-Right got into power in Israel and started a systematic policy of stealing Palestinian land and killing any Palestinian that resisted it, and the only way to make sure any solution is permanent in the face of systematic Israeli lies and breaking of their own international commitments (“unwaveringly” protected by the members of the Cohalition Of Racists such as the US and Germany) is massive sanctions and a blocade until they comply and the same afterwards if they renegue on it in even the smallest of ways.
There cannot be a permanent solution without serious external punishment for breaking their commitment when the stronger side systematically renegues on it when they see fit with no consequences, steal more land and consolidate again afterwards by “negotiating” the next such “permanent” solution.
For decades Israel has shown itself to be even less trustworthy and more murderous than Russia (which must be some kind of record) and needs to be treated like you would treat any other such violent rogue nation.
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As for the Nazi comparisons, go take it with Bibi and his bunch of Fascists demanding a “final solution”, suggesting Gaza should be nuked, calling Palestinians very explicitly “human animals” and “violent” along with murdering more civilians, more journalists, more healthcare workers and more humanitarian workers in a short time frame than everybody but the Nazis (in some cases, more than everybody else ever, including the Nazis) - they’re the ones that in their Fascist Racist words and violent deeds have transcended (especially in terms of violence) every other genocidal Fascist regime in modern history but the Nazis.
Had they not broken all records except the one of the Nazis of racist violence by a state, everybody would still be comparing them to Appartheid South Africa, not to the Nazis.
Don’t want to be compared to the Nazis, don’t use their style of propaganda and their etnic cleansing deeds as inspiration.
Come on… Do you really think that multiple governments are like “Ah, Israel says that, so it must be true. No need for further research. We ignore that we have intelligence agencies… We cancel support for UNWRA now!!!”.
WTF am I reading there??? Is this a new hobby? Comparing everything with Nazi Germany? Let me guess… Netanyahu is as bad as Hitler? I’m sorry, but I don’t even want to read the rest of it… It’s too much of a buzzword bingo at this point…
I just want to tell you what I think is the “best” outcome at this point. And I think, the “best” outcome would be a permanent solution, not what we had before, because that led us to where we are now…
Steps:
There is no step 3 without step 1 and 2.
IMO, most of the other “solutions” (especially those that let Hamas in power) bring “peace” for a few years, but make sure that afterwards, this decade-long disaster continues for many more decades. This shit needs to end forever.
The US Administration admitted that their only source for the accusations about UNWRA employees in Gaza was “intelligence provided by Israel”, so clearly their decision was taken based entirelly on “we trust Israel” and then the usual suspects followed very quickly, all or almost all being the ones who always declared “unwavering” support for Israel (one could call them The Cohalition Of Racists since they’re also the ones that always harped about the whole “Jewish Nation” thing, a concern that only makes sense for racists), clearly motivated by something else than the conclusions of a proper, independent, investigation of the claims.
There was a permanent solution, then a far-right Israeli extremist murdered Isaak Rabin, then Bibi got elected by the majority of Israelis and promptly renegued on the permanent solution.
Renegotiating a 2-state solution is just a stalling strategy from the racists because they know everytime it was done in the past it just served to force the Palestinians to accept more of the status quo of land stollen by Israel in the meanwhile with their “colonates”, and was always eventually reneguede upon by Israel when it stopped being usefull and in order to capture more land.
More such negotiations now would just reward Israel for taking more land and killing more Palestinians since the last such negotiated “solution” (on which Israel as always renegued once it wasn’t useful for them anymore) and then proceeded to steal more land and kill more innocents, which is pretty rationale for Ukraine not accepting a peace settlement with Russia were they concede more land to Russia: there will never be permanent peace when the invader again and again steal lands, gets to keep the land they stole with a “negotiated solution” and then after consolidating once again does the same thing all over again taking even more land.
The only solution is to go back enough that Israel loses all it has stollen in the meanwhile and all the gains from stealling Palestinian land since the Far-Right got into power in Israel and started a systematic policy of stealing Palestinian land and killing any Palestinian that resisted it, and the only way to make sure any solution is permanent in the face of systematic Israeli lies and breaking of their own international commitments (“unwaveringly” protected by the members of the Cohalition Of Racists such as the US and Germany) is massive sanctions and a blocade until they comply and the same afterwards if they renegue on it in even the smallest of ways.
There cannot be a permanent solution without serious external punishment for breaking their commitment when the stronger side systematically renegues on it when they see fit with no consequences, steal more land and consolidate again afterwards by “negotiating” the next such “permanent” solution.
For decades Israel has shown itself to be even less trustworthy and more murderous than Russia (which must be some kind of record) and needs to be treated like you would treat any other such violent rogue nation.
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As for the Nazi comparisons, go take it with Bibi and his bunch of Fascists demanding a “final solution”, suggesting Gaza should be nuked, calling Palestinians very explicitly “human animals” and “violent” along with murdering more civilians, more journalists, more healthcare workers and more humanitarian workers in a short time frame than everybody but the Nazis (in some cases, more than everybody else ever, including the Nazis) - they’re the ones that in their Fascist Racist words and violent deeds have transcended (especially in terms of violence) every other genocidal Fascist regime in modern history but the Nazis.
Had they not broken all records except the one of the Nazis of racist violence by a state, everybody would still be comparing them to Appartheid South Africa, not to the Nazis.
Don’t want to be compared to the Nazis, don’t use their style of propaganda and their etnic cleansing deeds as inspiration.