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      It’s not very well summed up lol. It’s totally ignorant of how the American government functions, at a basic constitutional level.

      How exactly are democrats supposed to pass these sweeping reforms?

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        I think people are getting to the point where they want the president to just do whatever, the courts be damned.

        Like maybe if the court says that you can’t do your DACA or Clean Power Plan or student loan forgiveness you just tell the court to go fuck itself.

        Or maybe if members of your own party sabotage your signature legislation you punish them.

        Or maybe if you run as a guy that can get things done because you’re a deal maker that’s been in DC for a hundred years and everybody in the Senate is your friend… then actually get something done.

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          This is a really dangerous thing for people to want since we will most assuredly have a Republican president at some point again.

          Biden has proven that he is a deal-maker by getting a LOT of shit done that frankly should not have been possible. He basically single-handedly brokered every deal made so far.

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            Exactly! Biden gets stuff done.™ That’s why we have free community college and no student loan debt today.

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              Biden got you a day in court for Student Loan debt, which is as far as he, personally could take you.

              To go any further on either option requires Congress. Biden has gotten numerous things through Congress that are mind-boggling considering the hostile environment.

              I understand you’re sad about not achieving policy victories but it would behoove you to learn how the US government actually functions, and maybe even to participate in it.

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                Biden could just pick a different mechanism (i.e. not the emergency declaration) and do student loan forgiveness again.

                He could just ignore the court’s ruling. Seems like a very low priority thing to start a constitutional crisis for, but he could do it if he wanted to.

                I don’t care about student loan forgiveness that much. I don’t even have student loans. It’s just indictive of everything else he’s failed on.

                I’m not going to suck his dick because he got Medicare drug prices negotiation (on five specific drugs starting a year or two from now) or a $7500 tax credit on an EV I still can’t afford even with a $7500 tax credit or a $1400 stimulus check that he said would be $2000 and Trump indicated he wanted to do as well or an infrastructure bill that I can’t really specifically point to anything it’s doing.

                Here is what a normal, not political, not terminally online person thinks: Biden was elected and nothing in my life has gotten better. Everything seems more expensive.

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                  He just today forgave another $39B in student loan debt so…

                  And I’d argee that your last sentence is correct in that the average person has little to no understanding of how government functions.

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          I think people are getting to the point where they want the president to just do whatever, the courts be damned

          This brings us closer to fascism. Ignoring the law to do whatever you want is a great way to collapse democracy.

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        At the current moment, not a lot. What they needed to do was a whole lot of prevention of what we all saw that was coming and stop the republicans from changing and breaking the rules. A good analogy I read once was that you can build a fortress or a wall very strong, but given enough time without maintenance and active defense it will always be overcome. Our government is that fortress, and everyone has just assumed the power inherent in it is enough to stop bad actors and that everyone is acting in good faith, abandoning the wall and letting it be sabotaged. We need(ed) active defense of our democracy and the DNC refuses to.

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          How, exactly, were they supposed to do these things without control of the government?

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            They weren’t. My other main criticism of the democrats is how bad they are about publicizing when they do good things, but mostly their almost complete lack of pointing out where the republicans are being awful and fucking over the working class. There is so much material to go after the republicans on, and they do nothing with it. The republicans on the other hand will hammer on Dems all day long om shit that isn’t even real, get their base all riled up and angry to vote. If the Dems used people’s anger and upsettedness at the republicans to drive people to vote we wouldn’t be in the place we are today, they would have been able to have control of the government.

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              I do agree that whoever writes talking points for Dems should have been fired and the land salted behind them like 20 years ago

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        At the current moment, not a lot. What they needed to do was a whole lot of prevention of what we all saw that was coming and stop the republicans from changing and breaking the rules. A good analogy I read once was that you can build a fortress or a wall very strong, but given enough time without maintenance and active defense it will always be overcome. Our government is that fortress, and everyone has just assumed the power inherent in it is enough to stop bad actors and that everyone is acting in good faith, abandoning the wall and letting it be sabotaged. We need(ed) active defense of our democracy and the DNC refuses to.

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          You need to change the minds of a lot of Americans to accomplish that.

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              That is absolutely false. The average American does not vote for candidates you want, which is why the candidates you want generally get blown out in elections.

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                In what way? If you are going to make such a bold and outlandish claim, back it up.

                The candidates I want never see general elections. They get quietly pushed to the side at the National Convention after months to years of tampering by DNC officials. This isn’t speculation, this is a fact that has been widely reported on.

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                  Lmao your candidates don’t see general elections because they lose by 3 million votes in the Primary

                  That is most assuredly widely reported on.