No surprises here. Just like the lockdown on iPhone screen and part replacements, Macbooks suffer from the same Apple’s anti-repair and anti-consumer bullshit. Battery glued, ssd soldered in and can’t even swap parts with other official parts. 6000$ laptop and you don’t even own it.
i would love for you to define a version of ownership which doesn’t include being permitted to do what you’d like with it (barring interactions with other human beings – ie no you can’t bring guns with you everywhere because that implicitly threatens other people)
i would love for you to define a version of ownership where you being unable to find someone to pay to repair your shit means you do not own it
actually most of human history – its a relatively modern invention that you should not be permitted to repair your own property
for example from 1939, it was taken as a given that repair was within the rights of the property owner: https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/233177352.pdf
its also part of most property definitions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_property
From your link
acknowledges a right for a natural or legal person to "peaceful enjoyment of his possessions
1. Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
2. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.
No repair mention anywhere so idk what youre on about, also by your logic you dont own your 1950 fridge anymore because theres no one left to repair it, your argument is so stupid
He’s talking about the right to repair you’re own stuff or have someone look at it. Not the right to a competent repairman. Those are two different things. I am not sure if you’re arguing in bad faith or if this is just a mistake to be honest.
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Does someone forbid you from repairing it? I am not sure if you’re arguing in bad faith or if this is just a mistake to be honest.>>>
No answer, evil government took him out after taking away his repair rights >.< (which rights arent even mentioned anywhere so idk what the fuck u feel entitled to that is allegedly being taken away here)
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That message wasnt a reply to any comment of yours? I even copied a part of his reply to mine
lol woops, still getting used to the lemmy UI and got confused. I thought it was him complaining i hadn’t responded. apologies.
They sign and lock hardware to prevent you from swapping parts. How do you not see this as bad and anti-consumer? Like they are actively preventing you from repairing something for no reason.
Your argument was this, not anti-consumer, so even though none of his sources mentioned a right to repair by government, only a right to own, a private entity making their parts hard to swap would not necessarily infringe on that repair right, as far as we are concerned it could only cover being allowed to attempt whatever repairs you want. Now, if you manage to find a source about that right to repair that ALSO mentions easy repairs by third parties, we can argue further
Right to repair isn’t a law yet in most places. You seem have have missed that whole debacle.
Edit: my country actually has right to repair laws: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57665593
so how do you enjoy your possessions peacefully if they break? is repairing them…not peaceful?
So if it breaks, and i can’t repair it, then I lose this property.
Now, one area where i had not previously gone but makes sense in this particular statement, is that if a company prevents you from repairing your equipment and that company is either unwilling (ie they banned you for trying to repair your john deere yourself) or unable (ie bankrupt) to repair your equipment, is that not depriving you of property? Or do you consider the failure of the property to be an act of god which the vendor is in no way responsible for, even if they deliberately design the system to fail you?
That obviously means government recognizing you have the right to own it and not arbitrarily depriving you of your property, maybe the other declaration below should have given you a clue 🤠. Now if u wanna claim the “peace” is referring to your mental state, then I can also claim I’m not at peace if my stuff cant give me a blowjob. Be reasonable and stop grasping at straws.
No, if your property breaks you still own property, broken property. The company is only responsible for a certain lifespan, it is called guarantee, dont like it, dont buy it.
They dont you are allowed to do whatever you want to it
Theyre only responsible for guarantee
He is responsible for guarantee
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Dont know which comments belong to your inbox but you instantly found block button what a quick learner, now you only have to achieve your government-backed peaceful state of mind 🤠
He never said the government guarantees a peaceful state of mine. Stop misinterpreting other people’s arguments just because you can’t make a valid one yourself.