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    1 year ago

    Would you say that many of the US armed forces deployed around the world warrant that title as well? Not in a whataboutism kind of way, just keeping you honest with upholding your standards everywhere they are relevant

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      1 year ago

      I would say not. Of course there will always be individuals that will be criminal but in the case of the US military, they take steps to reduce civilian casualties nor has the US annexed land.

      War is not fair. It is not precise. But it can be justified.

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      1 year ago

      If the US (ar any Western) army would do what the Russian army is doing, why not? I have never been anti-Russian or a Russophobe. I have no problem admitting that the US unleashed atrocious wars alongside its allies, one among them being Iraq. I have no problem saying that the US has problems with democracy (see Julian Assange, Snowden) etc, but currently there’s no army as evil as the Russian one.

      If the people you live close with lost legs, lost lives, lost children because a rocket flew in their house (not by accident, but by a voluntary action) at night when people are sleeping, if your local hospital was shelled by the X army, would you still say “oh those soldiers shelled my town 😊” or would you say “those bastards shelled my town”? It’s the same thing

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        What of all the countries that have been shelled, bombed, and invaded by the US, where inflows of weapons and sometimes troops have lead to more lost limbs, destroyed homes, and lost lives than Ukraine has seen? What of Yemen, Laos, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Korea, Iran, countless others? The biggest difference between all of these nations is 1) their interests do not align with ours like Ukraine’s does, 2) the US were the ones mutilating and razing, and 3) because of those two factors the press coverage was entirely absent for any of those crimes against humanity

        I guarantee that the US has lead to far, far more deaths than the few tens of thousands that Ukraine has seen at the hands of the Russians, even just in the middle east Surely the whataboutism is bringing up a much, much smaller death toll in the face of an absolutely massive one, right?