• root@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Very disappointing. Does Apple sell Air Tag data to 3rd parties?

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      4 months ago

      Apple cannot sell your AirTag data, because they don’t know it. It’s all encrypted.

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          4 months ago

          It lives in the same place as your other inaccessible data, which Apple has been unable to produce when served with warrants for iCloud data and the like.

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        4 months ago

        They say the same thing about some of the other data that they encrypt, but then they store the encryption private keys on their servers.

        Encryption doesn’t mean they can’t see the data. It means only the people with the private keys (and those who can crack the private keys or a device with the private keys) can see the data.

        One must know if the data is encrypted both at rest and in transit. What type of encryption is used. Where the private key is stored. And what are the protections in-place where the key is stored

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              It’s not open source if that’s what you mean. If you think that stops people looking at code then I’ll have some of what you’re smoking please.

              If you’re genuinely interested in how the Find My system works Here’s a good paper on it. The papers publishers even have an open source tool to connect to Apples Find My network which is neat.

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          4 months ago

          With proprietary software you have no way of knowing. Also avoid SaSS (service as a software substitute)

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        4 months ago

        They sell AirTag location data? I honestly find that hard to believe. What’s your source on this other than big tech bad?

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          4 months ago

          Right, apple definitely doesn’t have access to the info on the products they make and sell to the public.

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              Have you verified their encryption method? Where is the source code? Where is the third party public audit that verifies that it’s implemented properly with no other means of access?

              Blindly trusting that they say it’s encrypted is basically the same as no encryption

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                  4 months ago

                  I mean, None of these appeared to specifically be about the air tag. But it is at least does help show a general overall commitment to security. So it’s not as if it’s not a huge point in favor of trusting that the airtag data is safe

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                On top of being privacy focused themselves, they are only working with AI parters who also pass a third party code review verifying that zero user data is stored.

                Shit on Apple for not being repairable, sure. Shit on Apple for their walled garden, sure. But shitting on Apple over privacy is insane. They are they only big tech company that actually cares.

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                4 months ago

                This is made up fantasy land paranoia. Charlie Day with a big board shit.

                Yep apple is secretly grabbing data that not one privacy expert has found. Just like those sneaky Alexas that are always listening to me.

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                4 months ago

                Yes, only the person with the key can decrypt. Apple doesn’t have the keys.

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                    Source? As far as I know they didn’t claim to not know location until iOS 17 release. Up until then they could access that info, and were required to give it up provided with warrants. This has been a reason Apple has actively been limiting the data they have access to. They cannot be compelled to give up data they have no way of accessing.