Germany and Europe are once again 'Islamic State' targets – DW – 08/27/2024
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The Solingen knife attack is just the latest example of a new wave of violence linked to the "Islamic State" terrorist group. Experts say the war in the Middle East is the main catalyst.

The attack in Solingen is just the latest example of a new wave of violence linked to the Islamic State terrorist group. Experts say the war in the Middle East is the main catalyst.

The terrorist militia Islamic State (IS) has claimed responsibility for the knife attack in Solingen. According to Amak, the mouthpiece of IS, the attack was carried out in “revenge for Muslims in Palestine and elsewhere” and targeted a “group of Christians.”

  • DMBFFF@lemmy.worldEnglish
    111·
    2 months ago

    Islamic State has probably murdered over 20 000 innocent Arabs civilians.

  • atro_city@fedia.io
    91·
    2 months ago

    Ah, because of Palestine. It’s just an excuse, but supporting Israel in their genocide really isn’t a good look either way.

  • Ellia Plissken@lemm.eeEnglish
    31·
    2 months ago

    I know we made a big show about leaving afghanistan, but I haven’t heard about Iraq in ages. are we still fighting over there?

  • Lord Wiggle@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    2 months ago

    Do they know Germany is part of Europe? It’s like saying “both the shirt and the clothes I’m wearing”. One is part of the other, so just saying “Europe” covers it all.

    • Lord Wiggle@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      Is it? Source?

      I found this on mediabiasfactcheck.

      Overall, we rate Deutsche Welle (DW) Left-Center biased based on editorial positions that slightly favor the left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact check record.

      • Yareckt@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
        11·
        2 months ago

        Just my personal opinion based in how they report on different topics compared to other German news outlets. They often have a very nationalistic view on topics compared to other German news. They also often use populist headlines. Not as often as BILD but compared to reputable sources like tagesschau it is very obvious. It’s notable that they want to put a pro german spin on stories.

        • Lord Wiggle@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 months ago

          Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s propaganda. Yet you label it as such, which is spreading false information. Next time, please label your opinion as your opinion, not as factual when you cannot support your opinion with factual proof.

  • mods_mum@lemmy.todayEnglish
    643·
    2 months ago

    Common population is getting increasingly worried about negative effects of mass immigration. They are ridiculed, called racists, silenced and also arrested for speaking up. They are held hostage by their own government.

    Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable as JFK said.

    • idiomaddict@lemmy.worldEnglish
      261·
      2 months ago

      As an immigrant in Germany, people who don’t support immigrants are not cowed by their government, don’t worry. They love to tell me about it. Maybe if you were an immigrant for a day, you would see things differently as well.

          • mods_mum@lemmy.todayEnglish
            216·
            2 months ago

            Maybe you should get out some time

            Let’s focus on data primarily available from Germany’s Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) and other official sources.

            1. Homicides and Attempted Homicides by Immigrants

              2016: According to BKA data, immigrants were suspects in 285 cases of homicide or attempted homicide. This was during a peak year for refugee arrivals. 2017: Immigrants were suspects in 298 cases of homicide or attempted homicide. 2018: The number dropped to 230 cases. 2019: There were 256 cases where immigrants were suspects. 2020: The number was approximately 220 cases.

            2. Sexual Offenses

              2016: Immigrants were suspects in approximately 3,400 cases of sexual offenses. 2017: This number increased to around 3,600 cases. 2018: The number remained relatively stable, with about 3,400 cases reported. 2019: There were 3,500 cases. 2020: Around 3,000 cases involved immigrant suspects.

            • Allero@lemmy.todayEnglish
              141·
              2 months ago

              I’mma be honest, I didn’t dig statistics for Germany, but I live in Russia where the same migrant hysteria is rampant rn, and saw some numbers from there.

              On average, immigrants in Russia commit less crimes per person than native population. The areas in which there are objectively more crimes are migration laws (obviously) and sexual offences. Numbers in other categories are higher by native Russians. And mind you, our migrants come from underdeveloped primarily Muslim countries, too.

              With that said, do you have data on the share of crimes committed by native German population and immigrants? Pure numbers mean little without context.

            • atro_city@fedia.io
              101·
              2 months ago

              Cites sources, doesn’t link them.

              Also, does being a suspect mean they are guilty? All somebody has to do is scream rape, point and a non-white, and they are guilty of rape?

            • einkorn@feddit.orgEnglish
              7·
              2 months ago

              I am not sure what you are trying to tell with these numbers except to stir some hatred.

              To make any sort of sense from these numbers, you have a) to define what an immigrant is (hint, the BKA definition is very loose) and b) compare them to the overall cases of the listed offenses.

              • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldEnglish
                110·
                2 months ago

                make any sense of these numbers

                A. Immigrants were responsible for some murders and rapes and other crimes

                B. They had to be present in the country to commit these proximal acts

                C. Had they not been present, the murders, rapes, and other crimes perpetrated would not have been committed by them in the country

                D. There would have been less crime and the immigration system would not have caused harm to the actual domestic population.

                The crime rates of citizens vs immigrants is informative in terms of helping determine policy adjustments in terms of country of origin and specific cultural concerns but it doesn’t change the fact that the immigration system is doing harm to the domestic population which it should rightfully otherwise protect and benefit and be sustainable in the service of all it does.

                Nobody owes a violent, unstable refugee or criminal migrant (legal/economic, illegal etc) a fox in the henhouse situation. Doesn’t matter what they’ve been thru, it seems like there’s not even an in the alternative where they are mitigated and supervised until they can demonstrate they belong or removed before they can take root by causing harm.

                Edit: by the way this can actually lead to citizens committing crimes of desperation because they can’t find housing or employment or any other necessary. We don’t have infinite resources but there is infinite profit potential for those encouraging this mandate.

                Housing profits/crisis 🚀 Lower wages/wage growth suppression 🚀 Private healthcare system 🚀

                • einkorn@feddit.orgEnglish
                  7·
                  2 months ago

                  So you want to assign every immigrant a babysitter till they have been evaluated to be no risk?

                  While we are at it, might just as well give EVERYONE a government sponsored supervisor to be sure, because I’ve heard even some of those people already here rape, murder or commit other crimes. All in the name of the security of our state. I guess we should form some sort of ministry to supervise this effort. I guess Ministry for State Security might be fitting.

                  Do you even realize how contemptuous your idea is? I don’t know anything about you, but I guess to be sure you won’t kill me should you ever visit my city/county/state/planet, I will put you in a cage and point a camera at you.

                  I hope you keep your idea in mind should you plan to take your next vacation anywhere but your own apartment.

            • Iapar@feddit.orgEnglish
              6·
              2 months ago

              Those numbers mean nothing when there is no number to compare it to.

              So what are the numbers for Germans?

            • idiomaddict@lemmy.worldEnglish
              72·
              2 months ago

              Immigrants are over 15% of the population, of course they commit crimes. 8% of rapes are reported, wanna bet whether they’re more frequently reported when they’re committed by immigrants?

        • DMBFFF@lemmy.worldEnglish
          83·
          2 months ago

          Apparently the disgraceful rapist pig was a minor when he did it, and she was jailed for a weekend.

            • DMBFFF@lemmy.worldEnglish
              8·
              2 months ago

              Judge jails 1 of 9 men in Germany gang rape of teen girl

              https://torontosun.com/news/world/judge-jails-1-of-9-men-in-germany-gang-rape-of-teen-girl

              ​

              The others convicted of rape — filmed twice during separate assaults — received suspended sentences of one to two years. Four were identified as German, while the others have Armenian, Afghan, Kuwaiti and Montenegrin citizenship, reports said.

              …

              A 10th defendant was found not guilty, while another accused who faced charges for aiding and abetting and filming the rape, was acquitted in April.

              ​

              The judge’s sentences are not considered the final ruling.

              ​

              Due to the ages of the defendants at the time — between 17 and 21 — the trial was conducted by the youth chamber of Hamburg’s court. Sentencing is determined by each defendant’s educational needs, according to German criminal law.

              ​

              According to prosecutors, the girl attended a party on the festival grounds of the park on Sept. 19, 2020. While drunk, the teen was led by four men to a bushy area and abused.

              a lot of drunk women were/are raped by nominally Christian native-born.

              The judge called the proceedings “a mammoth circumstantial trial in which it was not clear for a long time what had happened on the night of September 19th to 20th, 2020,” according to a translation of a report by Germany’s Spiegel.

              …

              Some called for the judge to be a rape victim herself, while the criticisms were “marked by an anti-immigrant undertone,” the group added.

              ​

              and this was almost 4 years ago and occurred in a country of 82 million.

        • Lord Wiggle@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          2 months ago

          You should check your sources.

          I found this on your source:

          Overall, we rate The Telegraph Right Biased based on story selection that strongly favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to poor sourcing of information and some failed fact checks.

          Bias Rating: RIGHT Factual Reporting: MIXED Country: United Kingdom MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE Media Type: Newspaper Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY

      • mods_mum@lemmy.todayEnglish
        322·
        2 months ago

        What a bizarre take. What does the age of the account has to do with anything?

        • Allero@lemmy.todayEnglish
          15·
          2 months ago

          It’s a common indicator of people making throwaway accounts for the sake of trolling without backlash.

          Sometimes genuine accounts may have strong takes, but that’s more rare. And the nickname “mods_mum” doesn’t make it any more believable.

            • atro_city@fedia.io
              171·
              2 months ago

              Oh no… people are starting to trust “AI” to provide them accurate information without verifying it.

              “But but but, ChatGPT said it, so it must be right!”

              • mods_mum@lemmy.todayEnglish
                115·
                2 months ago

                ChatGPT doesn’t make up data out of thin air. All crime statistics used are from the BKA. Here’s the rest of stats normalized by the population size

                • Allero@lemmy.todayEnglish
                  141·
                  2 months ago

                  Numbers don’t even seem to add up, or something strongly changed between 2007 and 2010.

                  Also, you’re either a troll or a very incompetent researcher. You should absolutely never ever rely on LLMs to serve you any factual data. LLMs are highly prone to hallucinations.

                  Here’s an actual paper on the issue: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0167268123001713

                  Generally, the migrant crime rate increased in 2008-2014, but then decreased throughout 2015-2019. In total, the change averages to about zero.

                  As per reasoning, two primary forces are demonstrated: on one hand, poorer material conditions, and on the other, the fear of being deported. In 2015-2019, during refugee crisis, being sent back could mean essential death sentence, which shifted the balance. All of this is to say that we should improve material conditions for migrants if we want the crime rates among them to drop further. Instead, it is currently done under threats of deportation.

                  The only thing left unanswered for me is sexual violence. But in Germany, the difference between natives and locals is not as big as to justify mass measures against an entirety of migrant population.