• MostlyHarmless@programming.dev
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      2 years ago

      Is it stealing if you don’t pay for the cinema? You don’t own anything new after.

      Is it stealing if you don’t pay for your haircut? You don’t own anything new after.

      Is it stealing if you don’t pay for your car service? You don’t own anything new after.

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        In those three cases, you’re receiving a service (showing you the movie, cutting your hair and servicing your car), so yeah, you’re stealing their work, which is arguably much worse than stealing objects.

        In contrast, copying a copy of a movie or a game or whatever without removing the original or even a copy of it is not stealing.

        And before you chime in with “but future income!”, those profits are hypothetical, so even in the most uncharitable rational definition, you have stolen something that someone MIGHT have gotten.

        Copying is not theft and you can’t steal something that doesn’t and might never exist.

        • fuck reddit@lemmy.ml
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          The gray area where I live is that streaming is not piracy. I didn’t pay for it, but I also didn’t retain a copy.

          Putlocker and Wootly were my go-to spots in college because I wouldn’t get a piracy warning from my internet provider.

          If there are better places these days, please let me know. I miss seeing new movies the same day they hit the digital marketplace

      • SigloPseudoMundo@lemmy.ml
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        Yes, Captain obvious thanks for pointing out that a service and a product are different things. After all why would I pirate porn when fucking a hooker doesn’t get me anything new after?

    • dub@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      Is this for movies? Because you can always just buy the DVD lol. Then you would own it

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        Even then, your rights are limited. You can’t show it publicly, or make a copy except for personal backup, for instance.

        • Texas_Hangover@lemmy.worldBanned
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          Unskippable bullshit before you can even get the DVD to play cured me of my DVD buying habit.

  • Monologue@lemmy.zip
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    2 years ago

    internet piracy? i never ever would do such a thing, it is illegal. instead i will pay for 5 streaming services and never own anything. remember, you wouldn’t steal a car.

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    This statement feels so wrong yet also feels so correct. If companies can’t let ppl own what they paid they shouldn’t complain when ppl pirate.

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    One might argue that software developers deserve to be paid fairly for their work.

    That argument falls flat, though, when their products include user-hostile misfeatures like performance-ruining DRM and obnoxious in-app advertising, which pirates remove. By including such misfeatures, software companies are basically punishing their customers for not pirating their products.