• SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world
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      I’m gonna take a wild take and say the rich and powerful who direct the campaign are at fault for the campaign failing.

      You are literally saying “all they had to do was appease these people and they’d win” and somehow it’s the fault of millions of random people rather than the few individuals unwilling to make that concession.

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    Unpopular opinion: Kamala was a solid candidate.

    Biden was headed to a humiliating defeat. Another couple debates, and maybe he loses NY and CA and we have a Dukakis- or Mondale-level annhilation. Kamala stepped in and ran a solid campaign on very short notice. Trump didn’t even have time to come up with a good nickname for her! She kicked his ass in their only debate, and he was literally too scared to do it again.

    In the end, she lost by a couple hundred thousand votes in 3 states. She was wrong about Gaza and the economy, but PA, MI, and WI are credibly winnable in future elections. Kamala was not a garbage candidate.

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      But it’s not the voters fault! America had no choice but to vote for the rapist misogynist xenophobic fraudster traitor con man failed businessman because the woman had a nasally voice!

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      Unpopular opinion: Kamala was a solid candidate.

      If that is an unpopular opinion then the statement is definitionally false.

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      Honestly, yes. Kamala was the way better choice of the two. Biden kinda fell off for me the moment he did the railroad strike stuff.

      But I’m not living in the US, so my point is kinda moot.

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    If Kamala was a garbage candidate, what does that make Trump?

    For bonus points, how is it not the voters fault considering any rational answer to the above question? You may open your book to look up topical issues like peace, climate, genocide, rights, hate, juvenile bullying, criminal bullying, felony conviction, bigotry (don’t miss misogyny relating to to “garbage candidate”, see above), and tariffs.

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      If Kamala was a garbage candidate, what does that make Trump?

      The guy who told voters what they wanted to hear. “I know you’re upset at the world, and I’m going to make it great again.”

      The best Kamala could do was “I won’t do anything differently from the Biden administration.”

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      That’s not how this works. It is not a voters duty to vote for a candidate. The voter does not owe a candidate votes.

      Giving someone your vote is like giving them your personal political power. That’s why the popular vote works.

      The responsibility is on the party to put forth appropriate candidates that reflect the will of the people. It is up to them to sell themselves to us, not the other way around.

      In a democracy, all power is derived from the will of the people. They work for us. Not the other way around.

      It is up to the party to deliver appropriate candidates that will accurately reflect the will of the people.

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        Under normal circumstances with two evenly opposed candidates, I’d 100% agree with you, and I think you’d be hard-pressed to find many others that wouldn’t.

        But we were just given a desperate eleventh hour opportunity to save our democracy against a man who blatantly admitted he will be a dictator. That he would use America’s military against her citizens. That he wants to help Israel “finish the job.”

        …and now, because of smug and arrogant third party/protest voters that cry mind-bogglingly arrogant nonsense such as;

        It’s not a voters duty to vote!

        we get trump. And with that, many… MANY people will lose their rights. All because your entitlement seems to have no limits and no concern for those that will be hurt in the next decade or two.

        So, please. Do me a favor and at least take a bow and collectively own what you all have done. It was a hell of an effort to not act when you were needed.

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    If voters bear no responsibility, do you really believe in democracy, or are you thinking about this as an issue to be solved by authority?

    The self-righteousness of this discussion is a problem. Politics requires some humility, which we seem to be short of.

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      You are misunderstanding how the system is supposed to work.

      We have a responsibility to vote, but no candidate is owed a vote.

      The government is meant to execute the will of the people. That’s why we live in a democracy. That means that the government is supposed to work for you. The politicians are supposed to essentially be public workers that are hired via votes of the citizens.

      These public workers are supposed to be a reflection of the will of the people. If they don’t match what we want, then they don’t win.

      No one is owed our votes. They are supposed to earn it.