Yes. That’s unfortunately how it is in a 2 party system which is guaranteed by the game theory behind first part the past voting. Burying your head in the sand and pretending otherwise with a 3rd party vote leads to a spoiling effect more destructive to your cause.
I was asking about if the policies I mentioned have enough support within the Democratic Party that the Dems will actually implement those policies when they have a majority rather than them being shot down by people like Manchin and Sinema. ~Cherri
Youre asking under the context of others (and yourself?) justifying 3rd party vote. I can’t predict how the democrats would vote if/when they have a have a majority. I’m saying if you want those policies the only realistic path forward is to fight for it within the democratic party which was an earlier question of yours. 3rd party vote is strictly counterproductive to those goals. Certainly if Manchin and Sinema are barriers to that, the path forward is to fight for them to be pushed/primaried out and those policies are more likely to be implemented. Progressives represent a large group within the democratic party and more representation for them will shift the Overton window in their direction.
I believe so. My goal is to get Democrats an unassailable majority, without needing people like Manchin. I think we’ll see a lot of great changes if that happens.
If we get to that point and Democrats still don’t get things done, and there’s no reasonable explanation, I will turn on them on a dime.
So what do we do to make sure they actually get a majority and that either people like Manchin and Sinema aren’t in it or that they choose to stop shooting down progressive policies and all that? ~Cherri
I’m not sure where to start with campaigns and stuff. And honestly I’m worried it won’t work, or at least not anywhere near as quickly as the far-right can go around acrewing shit up. People have been trying this stuff for a long time. Will it ever be enough?.. ~Cherri
Enough support among other politicians within the Democratic Party to get them to pass this stuff if they have a majority? ~Cherri
Yes. That’s unfortunately how it is in a 2 party system which is guaranteed by the game theory behind first part the past voting. Burying your head in the sand and pretending otherwise with a 3rd party vote leads to a spoiling effect more destructive to your cause.
I was asking about if the policies I mentioned have enough support within the Democratic Party that the Dems will actually implement those policies when they have a majority rather than them being shot down by people like Manchin and Sinema. ~Cherri
Youre asking under the context of others (and yourself?) justifying 3rd party vote. I can’t predict how the democrats would vote if/when they have a have a majority. I’m saying if you want those policies the only realistic path forward is to fight for it within the democratic party which was an earlier question of yours. 3rd party vote is strictly counterproductive to those goals. Certainly if Manchin and Sinema are barriers to that, the path forward is to fight for them to be pushed/primaried out and those policies are more likely to be implemented. Progressives represent a large group within the democratic party and more representation for them will shift the Overton window in their direction.
I’m not sure how we’re supposed to do all of that. ~Cherri
I believe so. My goal is to get Democrats an unassailable majority, without needing people like Manchin. I think we’ll see a lot of great changes if that happens.
If we get to that point and Democrats still don’t get things done, and there’s no reasonable explanation, I will turn on them on a dime.
So what do we do to make sure they actually get a majority and that either people like Manchin and Sinema aren’t in it or that they choose to stop shooting down progressive policies and all that? ~Cherri
Voting as much as we can for every position and making sure our friends do too. Volunteering and organizing campaigns too, if you’re inclined.
I’m not sure where to start with campaigns and stuff. And honestly I’m worried it won’t work, or at least not anywhere near as quickly as the far-right can go around acrewing shit up. People have been trying this stuff for a long time. Will it ever be enough?.. ~Cherri
We can only hope:/