Systemd apparently. Every time someone brings it up, the thread devolves into a religious flame war.
I’ve never got this either. I’ve been using Linux exclusively for over 4 years, multiple devices, tested dozens of distros, almost all Systemd-based and I havent ever experienced any problems that the anti-systemd folks talk about.
Or at least, they were so rare and minimal that I didn’t notice.
Coming from an IT background dealing with 99% Windows machines and Microsoft products, maybe my bar was on the floor, but Linux has been soooo much more stable and dependable than Windows.
Been using Linux since 2004 and systemd has made my life significantly easier. People bickering about systemd are usually ultra nerds without arguments real people would consider important.
I remember in my coding class when the prof claimed the language we were learning didn’t have GOTO, but it also didn’t need it because anything that could be accomplished with GOTO could be accomplished with loops and conditionals.
Now looking back I can’t believe what a tech debt nightmare goto is, and I’m glad I weaned off it.
Startup scripts seem more powerful because they’re code you know will be executed sequentially. For a developer that feels nice.
But a declarative system like systemd is so much more predictable and stable, specifically because it does NOT allow for sequential execution of code.
Once I made that switch I was a fan. It’s so much more predictable and standardized.
Exactly my sentiment. Why would you want something with more moving parts than systemd which is also slower? :D
There are some good alternatives to SysV init.d scripts nowadays which only came to fruition after systemd existed and people noticed it’s possible to write something like this.
I used OpenRC and s6 and both of them worked better and were easier to configure than SysV init.
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I agree. Coming from the Windows world, systemd felt quite familiar compared to other components in a typical linux system, I always liked it. It doesn’t really follow the unix philosophy though, so it gets a lot of hate.
F*ck the Unix philosophy, this is Linux, not Unix.
Ditching the UNIX philosophy is a bad idea.
It’s a very useful guideline. There are times when those rules should be broken - systemd may be one of those - but by and large the UNIX philosophy has served us well.
I used Linux (and some Unix) before systemd was a thing and init scripts are jank. So much boilerplate and that was before things like proper isolation existed and other more modern features.
I don’t understand why anyone would want that back.
A replacement of systemd with something else would be fine, but please no more init scripts and pointless run levels.
Upstart was fine. It does the parallel init thing without taking over the whole OS.
I almost forgot it existed. It was a slight improvement, but with a whole bunch of new problems (most notable race conditions which were never fixed) and it was made obsolete by systemd.
It was a good evolutionary step only used by Ubuntu iirc. It was better at that time than the previous init system, but not more than that and it never found wide adaption.
Yeah when systemd came out it was over a decade since I touched an init script. So the only difference to me was my computer booted up faster.
Systemd is awesome. I used to use init.d and was annoyed when I had to learn systemd instead, but once I did I’m so glad it exists. Declarative is the way to go.
Was a little bit of a hassle initially to convert various custom init scripts into systemd unit files, but it was worth it IMO. Now the init scripts feel kinda jank in comparison lol.
On a barebones or embedded system I can see a lightweight init having a very big appeal though
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Electric Vehicles.
People who hate them have never driven them
Or they just hate all cars
Those I’m ok with hating EVs. It’s the other ones that blow my mind.
Yeah I dislike cars in general, but EVs are at least a step in the right direction.
I have driven one and despised it. It ran out of battery way too fast, so a 4 hour car ride turned into an 8 hour one because I needed to charge so often
Really? My wife did a 5 hour drive (Toronto to Ottawa) and the car’s only recharge took less time than her lunch. This is with a bolt EUV which is a cheaper car with slower charging and range than a lot of the competition.
Were you using a very old/cheap EV, or were you forced to use a slow charger?
I used quick chargers wherever possible, but also had problems getting those to work and was told I needed to hold up the charger by customer support when I finally got through to them. It was a BMW i3 which is indeed a model that is no longer being produced.
I’m not saying EVs are a bad thing, I just don’t think the tech is quite there yet compared to “normal” cars
It’s better in some way, it’s worse with others. My 400km range EV is good enough for most of the road trips I consider, but it doesn’t quite stand up to some more hardcore road trippers, and it’s winter range is markedly worse (your experience is quite the outlier in my experience though).
As you drive more electric you start to get a feel for the good and bad charging providers, (just like we all have preferences for gas stations I may add) some have pretty near instant customer service, others are basically build and forget. Where I live there are government owned truck stops that all have the same fast chargers that in my experience are well maintained, so the anxiety around finding a working charger isn’t a big deal during road trips. There was a brief period where I couldn’t use at home charging and my nearest fast charger broke down, that was a huge PITA.
But road trips are kinda a rare occurrence for most people, I at least might do one trip a year that’s greater than my range. it’s really nice to never have to go to a gas station, I genuinely don’t really think about how much fuel I have ever, and that fuel costs me pennies where I am (about $5 for 400km of range at my home electricity rates). It’s nice that it has essentially no maintenance. It’s nice that I can start preheating my car in winter while it’s in the garage.
If an environmental miracle happened today and gas cars were something we all could use forever, I personally would still drive electric.
That said I also just moved to a more walk-able city and god dammit cars have ruined society, I find myself in a car way less than I used to, but still far more than I would like.
Oh yeah I basically never drive a car, it was a rental. It’s just that my personal experience want all that great because I rented it specifically for a road trip
When was this?
We did a trip with my friends’ Tesla earlier this year. Normally would have taken us 8 hours, now it took 10 (or maybe it was even 12h instead of 10).
The car also wasn’t properly charged the night before for some reason, so we left with half a “tank”. That added an extra stop. I also think there were a lot of traffic problems which contributed in the extra time.
I also don’t mind to stop every 2 hours or so to charge. Perfect time for a bathroom/coffee/food break. But I’m not used to driving long distances. I know some people like to drive for 4 or 5 hours straight.
I’ll typically drive 12 hours without a stop. I hate having to stop, better take your piss before we get going because you’ll be doing it out the window.
Do you drive a truck that has a tank to go the 12 hours without stopping? Also #1 and #2, how?
Driven plenty, still hate them.
I just want an 06 Prius. These new ones are huge…
fucking despise them, its disgusting that investing in renewables or green only became attractive to governments when it meant sending more money to fucking car manufacturers
electric vehicles will only save the car industry
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they are not a real solution to issues made by cars: environmental, economic, social…
It isn’t, it’s to buy time. rebuilding cities to be less car centric takes decades. And even once fully transitioned there will be niche uses for electric vehicles.
It does solve some environmental issues, not economic and social but no one claimed it would.
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Their batteries are made of lithium and/or other volatile mined metals, which is plenty deadly for the nature.
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Not directly, power generation does for now, but your point stands.
The bigger issue with electric cars is the simple fact that busses and trains will still blow them out of the water in environmental footprint. Using a 4000 lb vehicle to move one person will simply never be efficient, regardless of the drivetrain.
Pineapples on pizza
Cilantro and onions. Y’all wouldn’t last a day in Mexico.
Unfortunately I have the gene, but onions are great though.
I’m here to represent the “Cilantro Tastes Like Soap, But I Like That!” crew.
Fuck off tankie
How about you take a second to think about your response here. We are talking about onions and cilantro not politics.
I don’t even remember posting in this thread so I have no idea what you are talking about.
One of these is true:
- Your account was hacked…
- You have a serious memory issue.
- Saying hateful, rude stuff is something you do so commonly you can’t even keep track of the instances.
Pretty much all of those are problems that you should deal with.
You told someone to fuck off for being a tankie in your eyes while we were talking about cilantro and onions. It’s out of place.
Abolutely with you. I fucking hate cilantro and I fucking love onions.
For the longest time I didn’t even know what cilantro tasted like. I thought maybe it tasted like nothing to me. The reason for this was once when my wife and I were at a Mexican restaurant, I got some green salsa. I dipped my chip in and complained to my wife that it tasted like nothing. She dipped a chip in and started gagging. She said it tasted like pure liquid cilantro.
One day I was cutting some cilantro for some tacos I was making at home, and I took a big bite. It didn’t taste like nothing to me. I just always associated the flavor with lime because anytime I have something with cilantro, I always squeeze a lime over it.
I always thought that was mildly interesting.
Cilantro is one of the best things in life.
im pretty sure i could eat an onion like an apple. i LOVE them
Red onion has the sharpest flavor raw.
I hate both, and I lasted a week in Mexico city, but learned how to request those things off, if I could.
There’s a generic thing with cilantro that makes some people think it tastes like soap. I don’t have it, but my wife does. I hardly notice cilantro, but even a little ruins a dish for her.
Oh I’m quite aware, tomatoes too.
Every little bit I eat them to see if I like them (or can force myself to) but I just haven’t been able to yet. I really wish I could just get over my dislike but I can’t seem to enjoy the taste.
I saw someone commenting how they specifically don’t like “raw tomatoes”. I was wondering why you’d be eating raw tomatoes to begin with but they just meant like regular tomatoes, ones you haven’t cooked since for them the cooked ones were the norm. And it had so many people agreeing with them about how “raw tomatoes” are disgusting.
It’s a weird world out there.
I also don’t like raw tomatoes, but cooked ones are okay.
I’d interpret ‘regular tomatoes’ as something non-heirloom.
I’d call “raw” tomatoes, as in regular eatable ones as just regular tomatoes. Raw to me sounds like unripe. While prepared, I guess that is self-explanatory. But I guess that’s more about cultural or language differences.
What do you not like about “raw” (I guess it is now warranted since there’s ambiguity, so fair enough) tomatoes? I think they’re the tits! First time I hear the term “heirloom tomatoes” btw.
Raw means uncooked, not unripe. They taste sharper and have their skins on, and the seeds are with their gel and juice, between the firm fleshy parts. When tomatoes are cooked, often the first step is to drop them in boiling water for a minute, take them out, and slide the skins off. Because the skin gets tough when cooked. The other thing that happens in cooking is that the flesh softens and the seeds migrate so it’s all more or less the same texture. The flavor gets sweeter too.
Personally I like raw tomatoes and cooked equally, but they are different.
Just sounds so weird, people calling regular tomartoes “raw” lmao. Is that a thing somewhere in the world, maybe the US? They like their stuff factory done lol
Raw cherry tomatoes or grape tomatoes would go along with raw carrots and raw celery and raw cauliflower and raw bell peppers and other raw vegetables on a crudité platter. Guess what “cru” and “crudités” means in French?
The point being that these are all vegetables that can also be served cooked. (Unlike lettuce which is ruined by cooking. I tried it once, blech.) But when dipping, you want that firmness and fresh taste.
It’s not a US thing, or anything special, you just seem to have an exaggerated idea of what the word raw means. Maybe you’re confused because it can also mean naked (“in Equus, he appeared on stage in the raw”) or chafed/chapped (“his nose was red and raw from the snowstorm”) or unedited/unfiltered (“the raw data suggests Hillary Clinton will win the 2016 election”). But in this case it just means uncooked/unheated. It could be sliced and spiced and still be raw.
Btw, we don’t default to cooked or canned tomatoes, we would specify those as well, for instance in a pasta or chili recipe.
Pineapple pizza.
Fucking war criminal
Canadian Bacon and Pineapple is my favorite!
The Italians will find you, your days are numbered
I’ll fight them with my noodles with poppy seeds and sugar.
Pizza and Toast Hawaii are both nice.
I’ve also had pineapple kebab.
Anything else omelette with pineapple?
Same. Kebab pizza in general is the tits
That’s interesting!
Is it much different from other savory food that comes with a sweet side dish? Just as cranberry fits to venison, the taste of pineapple fits the ham those pizze typically are covered with.
It’s not good, fight me
It’s good when you do it right but pretty much everyone does it wrong
Almost like taste is subjective
For real??? 🤯
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Yes it’s too sweet to fit a regular type pizza.
Of course people can have whatever they want, but it’s not a traditional pizza combination for the same reason why no other fruits are found in a pizza except for tomatoes!
Pineappe raclette.
Works well with some salty ingredients. Chicken is specifically good
I played like 40hours of Cyberpunk 2077 before going on social media. I Thought it was going to get “mid” reviews, but I guess I got really lucky to not hit any serious bugs. Lesson being: If you wanna enjoy a game, don’t look at any marketing materials, and don’t seek out social media about it until you’ve had time to form your own opinions.
I read reviews before buying on day 2, basically. Sure, I expected some bugs, as the reviewers warned. I barely got any, just some visual glitches during cutscenes. Still, I would give the game a solid 8/10.
Came out of my playthrough to everyone raging about everything about the game. Couldn’t even give an honest opinion about the game without being downvoted to oblivion because people who never even played the game refused to believe the game was playable at all.
The hype backlash was a serious issue for that game. People expected it to be something it never could have been.
It would be one thing if people were just overhyping things, but a lot of the outrage was over how much they just blatantly lied while marketing the game. They promised a lot of specific things and then released something that was aesthetically impressive but ultimately outdone in just about every other category by sometimes decades old games, and lacked all of the groundbreaking features they marketed.
Personally, even coming back to it much later and trying to enjoy it at face value with all of its updates, it still felt like a boring and shallow GTA clone with a neon glaze. That’s not to mention the fact that it’s still frustratingly buggy.
Yeah I think the same thing is happening with starfield as well. People expected skyrim x elite dangerous x the good parts of no man’s sky and I think that just isn’t realistic. That said I find starfield pretty meh in it’s current state, I am waiting for the QOL mods to stabilize before I play much as I just ran into way too many issues.
My biggest (not only) complaint so far is that entire planets have maybe 8 or 9 species of plants and animals. Hopefully biodiversity mods will pop up. It seems like a decent platform to build future content into.
Might be because they marketed it as such and then the devs failed to live up to the marketing.
I still laugh thinking about how it ran “surprisingly well” on PS4. Lmao
Cyberpunk 2077 was an incredible game until I tried to drive a car.
Yeah I hear that’s bad, I hate all driving in video games so it wasn’t anything out of the ordinary for me, I think I drove a car like twice in 150hrs.
It’s horrible
I used motorcycles or rapid transit everywhere.
I borrowed it from a library for a PS4. It was genuinely unplayable if you actually wanted to play it, but for laughing at the bugs and whatnot it was great.
Would’ve been pissed if I had paid anything for it.
I played it on Stadia, completed it within like two months after the release, never encountered any bug
Same. I played it on stadia and it was pretty stable. When I went to that other site to see what people were saying I was absolutely shocked at the amount of bugs and hate it was getting.
I’m not a gamer but I’ve noticed reviews of anything are usually trash. And if you’re thinking about buying a product and looking at reviews, you’ve gotta be careful to avoid reviews where they get a cut on the “buy now” links. In fact, usually if it has a link to buy it I just go back and forget that review.
To be it was truly bad, but not in a rage-y way, only in a “Wow, this is it?! All this hype, all this wait, and this tepid fart is all we’re getting at the end?”-way.
I finished it - which granted isn’t difficult given how brief the main quest is - then went through some specific side quests. I will give it credit, some of the side quests have really cool characters and are overall really well done. And the graphics can be pretty as hell in some if not most areas. But ~everything else, the main quest, the writing, the story, the city in itself, the software quality, the combat system, the upgrade system, it’s all there, it’s largely functional, but just barely so.
So yeah, just massively disappointing given how much work must have been behind it. I don’t even want to know how often management yanked the team around and made them re-do massive parts of it, the bugginess and tonal disjointedness of the finished game hints at it plenty.
Special shoutout to the driving, which highlights how the game was clearly not meant to have this until relatively late in development.
Rick Astley. I never really got the point of people getting mad at Never Gonna Give You Up, if anything getting rickrolled is a nice surprise to me.
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Here? Bicycles. Super weird how weird people are about bikes and bike lanes here. Spreading the joy of a non-commodified fun-as-fuck method of transportation often provokes some truly reactionary energy here.
The idea that we ought to improve society somewhat, even while participating in it.
Black Licorice
My mother likes black licorice and so my sister and I grew up eating and enjoying it every Easter. Turns out most people hate the stuff.
Nickelback
Mushrooms
I was shocked to discover the hatred the old live action Mario movie gets. I enjoyed it when it came out when I was a kid. I rewatched it as an adult to see if my memory was faulty… still enjoyed it. It’s a little campy, but it’s a fun romp! I unironically enjoy it, as a good movie and not as a “so-bad-it’s-good” movie. And yet it gets so much hate…
I’m kinda with you. I didn’t hate it as a kid. However, if you were expecting a MARIO AND LUIGI movie it just didn’t come even close to delivering. I wish they’d just made that movie as something else, because it wasn’t Mario.
While it’s true that the writers made a point to learn nothing about the franchise before writing it, there’s an argument to be made that at that point there wasn’t really much lore from the games. It came out in 93. If today they made a game where Mario and Luigi from our world follow Princess peach through a portal to save her from being kidnapped by Goombas, only to find Dinosaur New York and get jump powers from technology, then you find out Bowser has usurped the Mushroom Kingdom power structure by de-evolving the king to the point of him now being a fungus who spends the entire game gently helping Mario occasionally… That would be an amazing modern day Mario game. Forget Galaxy, that would be the most complex and interesting game in the franchise.
Plus, it’s got the funniest joke I’ve heard in any movie.
Desk Sergeant: Name?
Mario: Mario.
Desk Sergeant: Last name?
Mario: Mario.
Desk Sergeant: (rolls eyes) Okay, what’s your name?
Luigi: Luigi.
Desk Sergeant: (exasperated) Luigi Luigi?
Luigi: No. Luigi Mario.
The whole movie is a masterpiece and the twist that the king was the fungus that’s been choking the city is great, and on re-watches you notice all the times the Marios are saved or helped by the fungus. It also implies that the convergent evolution of this parallel world includes both dinosaurs and fungus turning into basically identical people, and the mushroom people managed to become the ruling class.
I was an older teen when it came out and didn’t see it until just a few months ago. I don’t think it’s great but I was more entertained watching it than the new animated movie. It’s totally bonkers.
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