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This community does not affirm practiced LGBTQ+ lifestyles
Rule 8 of this community is in clear breach of the first goal from the lemmy/mastodon.world code of conduct
https://lemmy.world/c/christians
This community does not affirm practiced LGBTQ+ lifestyles
Rule 8 of this community is in clear breach of the first goal from the lemmy/mastodon.world code of conduct
What about the phrase “sunlight is the best disinfectant”?. You can allow people to air their opinions (regardless of whether you believe they’re bigoted or not) and it’ll hurt their cause. Alex Jones is nothing but a meme now because of having a platform.
Doesn’t banning these people prove their ideas and conspiracies right and force them deeper underground?
If they aren’t promoting literal violence, leave them be. Just because they upset some people isn’t a reason to ban them.
The Westboro Baptist Church is a prime example of airing their foul opinions causing almost a complete exodus and switch on behalf of the church members. If you think you’re right, try to convince them.
If you want to talk to them, go somewhere they congregate and talk to them. It’s not like such places are rare on the internet. Not everywhere needs to be a platform for hate.
You do realise that every single social platform favours your way of thinking? You are pretending like you aren’t fully in charge.
All you need to do is shout “my feelings!” and you get results. Like toddlers shouting for cookies.
Really? 4chan does? How about exploding-heads? reddit? What unmitigated horseshit.
You’re whining that bigots aren’t welcome here. Your poor feelings. There’s already too many places that are as stormfront-y as you’d prefer. Not everywhere has to be.
There were a total of 12 threads there and not one of them was the slightest bit bigoted. Get a grip.
Well, that first thread on your list there was in response to the bigotry that informed rule 8.
If you want to talk to me again, please refrain from huge pointless text dumps.
You’re the one claiming they are like stormfront, and I’ve just shown otherwise. Want to try again?
No, scroll waaaaaay up and re-read what I wrote. I said that bigots already have many platforms on which they were welcome. The guy defending bigots whined that this isn’t one of them. I said that he was upset because he would prefer everywhere to be more like stormfront.
All you did was dump a wall of text that omitted the bigotry central to the discussion. Because not only are you irritating enough to dump a wall of text in the service of bigotry, you’re dishonest enough to deny it where it exists.
Not every site is obligated to be complicit in the spread of bigotry. No good community welcomes bigots.
So, why not install one of the members there as mod to clean up the rule (which has never been enforced). As it is, it’s been nuked - the community name is banned forever, and the members are sol.
edit: The community was deleted less than an hour after this thread went up, there was no effort made to correct the problem whatsoever.
When the “opinions” being aired discriminate against other people or could lead to an avoidable death from dangerous misinformation, it should not be allowed.
Deplatforming works. Yes, banned people will leave and try to congregate somewhere else - but it is better that they are removed, so that the impressionable and the vulnerable are not hurt by their bigotry or misinformation. Besides, how many people have you honestly seen have a core belief successfully challenged and changed on the internet?
I was one of those people, I’ve been changed. I know a lot of other people too. Maybe try to look outside of an echo chamber sometime.
Same here, and the orthodoxy enforcement brigade here reminds me a whole lot of the conservative religious folk I grew up around. Bizarre.
Alex Jones and everyone else hurt so many people in such awful ways because he was allowed to.