• Kyoyeou (Ki jəʊ juː)@slrpnk.net
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    1 year ago

    May I Ask why people don’t like webp? I don’t know the reason? To my eyes now it is a more ecological way of having pictures because of their lower weight?

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      It’s a better format than JPEG, GIF, or PNG, while doing the jobs of all of those, but better (in most cases), and is an open format. It also has wide compatibility nowadays. The only major downside is a lot of social media services don’t even think about it being a potential format due to a lack of awareness/wide usage, leading to a degraded experience when someone shares a WebP somewhere (lack of auto-embedding as an example). I suspect this is why it gets a lot of hate here, which is unfortunate because it’s not at all the fault of the format.

      AVIF (based on AV1) is the up-and-coming format that beats WebP in most cases now, but support isn’t quite there yet (mostly due to Apple), and it has the same problems for social media as WebP. However, it doesn’t have any true lossless mode AFAIK. HEIF (based on HEVC) is also good, but is heavily patent-encumbered and not as open. JPEG-XL is dope and potentially even better in some aspects, but has very poor support across the board.

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        one important tidbit in this whole situation that sheds a lot of light on where and why is adopted: webp is Google’s horse, jpegxl is adobe’s horse. that’s why jpegxl has poor web support, and why webp pisses off designers.

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        1 year ago

        I know I get annoyed by webp because Telegram processes it as a sticker instead of a normal image. That’s my only gripe with it, but like you said that’s more Telegram than the actual format.

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      Proprietary formats are the bane of humanity. No one company, doesn’t matter, should have control over a file format. They should all be free and universally interoperable. A PSD, for example, should present and store data the same way if used on Photoshop or Pixelmator.

      Companies are not your friends.

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        WebP is not proprietary. It’s an open format, is not patent-encumbered, and its reference implementation/libraries are open-source. It is driven mostly by Google, similar to Chromium.

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          They took the open source WebKit to develop Chrome and Chromium.

          How did that turn out?

          Google wants to own images. Doesn’t matter if they made the licensing whatever. They make webp. They have a personal vested interest in control.

          You trust Google???

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            They took the open source WebKit to develop Chrome and Chromium.

            How did that turn out?

            Perfectly? Web browsers are way better now than they ever have been.

            Google wants to own images. Doesn’t matter if they made the licensing whatever. They make webp. They have a personal vested interest in control.

            WebP is a little better than PNG/JPEG and way better than GIF. That’s all that really matters.

            You trust Google???

            Hell no. I reluctantly watch a bit of content that’s exclusively available on YouTube. Don’t use anything else of theirs and I’d drop YouTube in a heartbeat if I could find that content elsewhere.