So I need some realtalk by Lemmie’s resident stoners and possibly medical professionals on the benefits and risks/harms of vaping cannabis refill things on the respiratory system (using a rechargeable vape pen/battery thingy at the lowest heat setting).
Give it to me straight docs, whats up and how long do I have to live if I use it infrequently but potentially daily in small amounts?
I have been using cartridges lately for my once per night before bed sess. It’s extremely convenient and affordable.
Here’s the thing. When I use dry herb vaping, I tend to have the same amount every night and it’s fine. I don’t want to get baked, I just want to sleep.
When I have a cartridge, I end up taking more drags from it. This leads to consuming now which increases your tolerance. It’s just so easy to have a little more. When I use dry herb reloading the vape is just enough effort that I think “I’m good” and wander off to bed. Plus you have ABV to make edibles.
Edit - no noticeable effect on breathing or whatever that differs from dry herb vaping.
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Love ur username! Ya, I’m moderating quite well actually. I def can’t big boy smoke shit and I can’t even really tolerate a water bong etc. vapint is the only thing that “works” but I wanna make sure Im not fucking up my lungs and predisposing myself to any COPD bullshit
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Inhalants in general are not good for you. Vaping introduces water, smoking introduces ash/smoke. There are no benefits to vaping or smoking. Unless you are being prescribed it by a doctor. I mean drugs are not good for you. But if you are going to, your body can usually deal with it well with moderation. Edibles are better than inhalants.
Nothing you inhale is good for you, but vaping is significantly better than smoking. It’s not even a comparison.
If you are going to inhale something, make it a vape
These answers are so unhelpful Imo. It just states the obvious and doesn’t answer OPs question. Everyone knows drugs or inhaling stuff is not the healthy optimum. OP is just looking for the least harmful way.
I really wish there was like an asthma puffer delivery system where it is aerosolized rather than heated and burned. I dunno if thats possible but it would be amazing to simply have a puffer, like how there’s inhaled versions of narcotic painkillers like fentanyl with legitimate medical indications and usage.
What you’re describing does exist. Google “THC inhaler” and you’ll see a few examples of it.
I don’t use an inhaler like that, but I do use a dry herb vaporiser. You put your ground bud into it (like packing a pipe or bong), and it heats the flower to somewhere around 170-200 degrees Celsius. Since the temp is so low, the flower doesn’t burn it at all, so no smoke or ash is produced, only vapor. It’s so much better for you than combustion, relatively speaking, that my country’s rules for medical cannabis prescriptions say that prescribed flower should never be smoked, only vaporised.
Is that or how is that distinct conceptually from vaping?
I don’t know what you are talking about. I don’t know of any legitimate inhaled drugs that aren’t for treating the lungs.
Are you maybe thinking of narcan? It can treat an overdose of fentanyl.
Methoxyflurane is still widely and legally admistered as a vaporised drug. All hail the green whistle.
Don’t forget amyl nitrate
No, I believe there’s literally an aerosolized fentanyl I believe as a marketed drug. I may also be thinking of when Russia dealt with a hostage situation with aerosolized fentanyl or a more potent relative. But I was certain theres a marketed version for sick folks
I would recommend strongly against inhaling any oil containing product. Your lungs do not have much surfactant and they cannot deal with it.
Real talk? Vape carts are garbage. Overpriced and weak, just smoke bud or rip a dab. The only times I use carts are when i have to sneakily bring it somewhere.
Health wise, the smoke from wild fires probably caused more damage to my lungs than a year of weed.
Can’t, asthma gets too exacerbated by it. Also, in most serious things I am a teenage girl (not really but I could definitely credibly be accused of being, lets say “a bit vanilla” lol
If you want to vape, get a Volcano and go easy. Much better than any cartridge.
dont let folks peer pressure you thats how you get fucked up with a real drug.
weed is ur drug free trial theres no strings attached and hardly any danger. you will be fine if youre getting your materials from trusted sources. (i smoked/vaped street for years and was fine but i dont recommend).
the danger that exists is 99% fake and propagated stigma because america wants to enslave black people so badly
and if you think im being cynical read about the stipulations of the 13th amendment, the drug war, neighborhood segregation, etc
alcohol and tobacco lobbyists paid to demonize and criminalize marijauana to promote their business even though alcohol and tobacco are HORRIBLE for your body. so make your own opinions on this but weed has a bad wrap for quite literally no reason.
I refuse carts anymore but have never felt the same level of worry with dry herb vaping.
I can’t speak as to much from personal experience. However, I do know of an extended family member that had a negative respiratory reaction to a weed vape he got online. He survived, but ended up in a coma for a while and suffered serious brain damage from lack of oxygen. He was a talented athlete, and now he will be lucky to walk and feed himself again.
Don’t know if it was tainted product, an allergic reaction, or what, but… I would make sure you can trust the safety of the product itself, ease into use checking to see if you might have a reaction, and maybe be prepared with an epipen or something in case you have a negative allergic reaction.
Just to be clear, I’m not one of those fear mongering “weed kills” types. I’m not a smoker myself, but very much support legalization and responsible recreational use. But I do not trust all of the sketchy companies producing vape products in general, let alone products that are illegal in much of the world.
Holy shit, yeah, I heard there were lottsa sketch places and products fudging the THC numbers with Vitamin E like how they contaminated baby milk in China with bullshit “protein”. I really should get the brand names and read some reviews but I doubt that would be sold in the upscale weed store (it really is, like an Apple weed store pree much)
fudging the THC numbers with Vitamin E
It was a specific product (“Honey Cut”, a brand of vitamin E acetate) that was sold to black-market cartridge makers by a company based in Los Angeles. It was used as a diluent (“cut”) that is thick enough to fool users into thinking they’re getting pure cannabis extract. It doesn’t affect measurement of THC concentration; unlike lab-tested legal extracts, black-marketeers just lie.
Motherfuckers
Seems to me that edibles are safer than vaping or smoking.
You are absolutely correct
Wikipedia has this article on vaping-associated lung injury.
The outbreak was caused by vitamin E acetate used as “cut” in black-market cartridges. Legal regulated cartridges do not contain any “cut” at all.
Yes and no; for reasons that are beyond me the door has been left somewhat open on that one:
“Vitamin-E acetate (VEA) is found in counterfeit cartridges and bronchoalveolar lavage fluid of EVALI patients. Other reports implicated the presence of aromatic/volatile hydrocarbons and oils consisting of medium-chain triglycerides (MCT oil), including terpenes and mineral oil in tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) containing counterfeit vaping products. These compounds are involved in oxidative stress and inflammatory responses in the lung. Here, we provide the perspectives on the recent case reports on EVALI, etiology, and discuss pulmonary toxicity as well as the mechanisms underlying EVALI susceptibility and lung pathophysiology.”
But the cutting agent certainly seems to have been pretty bad.
Thanks for posting this.
You wouldn’t happen to have a quick summary would you? I just need to clean and run some errands but I wanna fill myself in as quickly as possible if it really is not tenable?
I’ve stipped using dab pens in favor of a one hitter and making my own edibles. I live in a medical state with a recreational state less only an hour away so i’m not worried about my carts being sketchy, but they make it way too easy to get way too baked.
Just do your research, know the difference between CBD, delta 8/9 THC, HHC, etc and i would recommend filling up your own cartridge if you want to be sure you know what is going into it, most places have lab tests so you know theres nothing bad in it. I’ve been filling an NRG-S with ceramic coils and carts with HHC from highlyconcentr8ed, never had any issues after several months of vaping it as much as possible.
i smoke carts literally all day everyday (i buy bulk disty and fill myself) and aside from psychological addiction theres no actual physical harm. marijuana is effectively harmless especially if used as you describe. feel free to read soem studies but marijuana has at worst caused respiratory issues at doses like 100000mg that lasted a few hours then theyre fine with no damage.
decade long daily users stop for a month and lung health stays/goes back to baseline.
dont let the propaganda scare you but also dont let your impulses control you theres good and bad parts to everything you have to figure it out tho.
before anyone says dont smoke everyday its bad. i know more about my body than you people ever will. and i know its bad but im not in a good place. judge my circumstance not my actions im working on it.
Its not so much the “drug” or THC/cannabinoids that concern me so much, its the issue of ingesting it through the modality of a (heated) oil to the delicate lungs that slightly gives me pause. And the long-term potentially compounding nature of that. Also have mild mild mild asthma so I have to be a bit more responsible about it cuz I hate breathing issues.
