who the fuck is russia, a non-EU, non-NATO empire to decide what a country that isn’t them does?
Have you met russia?
They’re corrupt oligarchs inside crime syndicates wrapped by insane dictators. We should probably take notes, our demented rapist will want us to follow suit in a few months no doubt.
Russia placed him at the head of government as a puppet, so yeah probably.
we’re following suit already
Of course you’re right morally, but it’s still an interesting change in tone. This whole thing started when Russia threw a fit about Ukraine wanting closer ties to the EU instead of Russia. Now their official position is that even EU membership is totally fine. Seems like their position weakened quite a bit since 2014.
On the other hand, maybe this means Russia wants to fight the entire EU with their mutual defence pact when they attack again after recovering for a few years through a ceasefire. Or maybe they’re gambling that the EU’s requirements are too strict for Ukraine to join.
Or maybe it’s just all lies again, of course. But still, an interesting weaker flavour of lies, in that case.
it’s certainly a change from their declaration that Ukraine isn’t a country and Ukrainians are actually Russians
I don’t think that bit hasn’t changed either. I think Putin made another one of those “Ukraine is historically Russian” statements, while completely ignoring the time when it wasn’t Russia.
Part of the game is to put out many conflicting statements attached to as many opinions from state funded talking heads as possible.
I believe that when I researched last, the statement about Russia being able to take Ukraine “in three days” actually came from propagandists and I never found an official statement about it. Regardless, the point is that is gives the government plausible deniability with any statement if it was “accidentally taken out of context” by the state media.
completely ignoring the time when it wasn’t Russia.
or the more hilarious: when russia was ukraine
(though i haven’t done much research; that could be a funny little “kinda but it’s more complex” quirk to history)
Seems like their position weakened quite a bit since 2014.
Seems like they need a breather and none of those things are going to be finished in the time they need for their breather.
And it is to Russia to decide? 😂
Russia and America seemingly. Not sure who voted America in as Ukraine’s proxy
probably a couple hundred billion dollars got 'em in the door.
Why they think they can negitoate without the country they’re talking about, though - well that’s just demented and incompetent idiots freshly elected by stuipd, mouth-breathing, cloven-hooved, morons and their entire families.
It’s undoubtedly part of some sleazy plan to screw over Ukraine for the demented rapist’s BFF.
They simply think that world politics did not change since 1989
America is Russia’s proxy. Don’t think Ukraine has one.
Make Russia Small Again
Big words coming from the country that can’t finish a three day military operation in three years…
OK so let Ukraine join the EU!
Russia has a sovereign right to gargle my balls
Easy, then lets Take Ukraine in and forge a european defense pact. Sounds good to me, should be for the other NATO members as well. We mighty try to fix some Things while we are at it…
The EU already has a very NATO like defense pack.
If a Member State is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States shall have towards it an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power, in accordance with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter.
Article 42.7 TEU
Ah cool, didnt know that.
Do a European Defense Part, but Ukraine is not ready yet for EU. We don’t want another Hungary with Veto rights. It’s not only Homework for EU, but the EU itself needs to do some Homework before growing again
Ukraine does not meet BASIC requirements, it’s as corrupted as Russia as far as EU used to say during the past 2 years…
That’s a rather odd change of tone since the statement not only definitively states that Ukraine is a sovereign nation but it also outright encourages EU membership for Ukraine which comes with a similar military defense guaranty to NATO, though importantly it of course does not come with US backing. At a guess I would say that they are trying to preemptively position themselves as the “reasonable” party in the upcoming (on-going?) negotiations.
This is the realpolitik answer. Intake perception of power, intentions, hard power, and leverage, among other things to get the context for position changes.
This isn’t a new position. Putin has already said years back that he doesn’t care if Ukraine joins the EU.
Now that Trump’s plan to seize 50% of Ukraine’s mineral deposits has leaked, Putin might be more worried about the USA/NATO/“the west” getting “all” of Ukraine and Russia getting nothing. So if he backs off from wanting to seize Ukrainian territory, he can push for “Ukrainian sovereignty” to prevent the USA from turning Ukraine into a vassal state.
reasonable. How many war crimes do they have racked up? It’s well into the thousands.
Eu army and then we dont need the stupid nato.
