Elon Musk says no primates died as a result of Neuralink’s implants. A WIRED investigation now reveals the grisly specifics of their deaths as US authorities have been asked to investigate Musk’s claims.
Staff observed that though she was uncomfortable, picking and pulling at her implant until it bled, she would often lie at the foot of her cage and spend time holding hands with her roommate.
That is just incredibly sad. Those poor animals suffering for that megalomaniacs ego.
Although they were allegedly not treated according to laws, these animals suffered so future human trials can be conducted safely, not because of Musks ego.
Trials for what? Musk’s implant isn’t new or revolutionary this research has been going on for awhile. But because some egotistical asshole wants to do it people are like wow look at that.
Although they were allegedly not treated according to laws, these animals suffered so future human trials can be conducted safely, not because of Musks ego.
What a noble sacrifice they were physically forced to make, locked away in cages and hidden from the public eye. /s.
While we don’t know exactly what goes on in the minds of animals, we don’t need some fucked up, transhumanist vanity project to see that animals have pain, fear, trauma and self-preservation responses that are comparable to ours.
It’s no more ethical to torture animals in the name of bullshit luxury items then it is to torture children, but it’s just as easy to hand wave away that cruelty by claiming “oh their emotions aren’t as complex as ours and maybe all that screaming and crying and clawing at their face is just how they let other children know they’re having a good time”.
If you’re casually convinced it’s all worth it, you can fucking volunteer. Maybe there’s valuable discoveries to be made by testing what happens when apologism and “allegedly” is forces sideways down someone’s piss hole.
A chip in our brain is not necessary enough for animals to be literally sacrificed for “future human trials”
Go back to farming dogecoin or some shit
It isn’t worth it. This technology asks far too much.
Technology is ALWAYS worth it.
Animal 15 began to lose coordination, and staff observed that she would shake uncontrollably when she saw lab workers.
These are conscious beings. Imagine being trapped in a lab where the next time you wake up you might not have full motor function?
Animal 15 began to lose coordination, and staff observed that she would shake uncontrollably when she saw lab workers.
i hate that i can read this
I question the humanity of anyone who can read that and not be upset.
You can always switch your phone to airplane mode.
Sentient, maybe some limited level of sapience, but not conscious as far as we understand the term
And who are you to make this decision? Can I make that decision about you and use you for experiments?
I literally said “as far as we understand the term.” Sentience, sapience, and consciousness are not interchangable terms; they have vastly different meanings.
We as humans and as we have defined the terms do not label any other species as conscious as we currently understand the term. Consciousness is currently a uniquely human trait. It’s not my decision, it’s just what we know and how we’ve labeled things.
‘I don’t understand so it doesn’t exist’
I literally said “as far as we understand the term.” We as humans and as we define the term. They do not have consciousness based on what we currently know, and there’s very little evidence that they do based on what experiments we are able to conduct. I’m not saying they unequivocally don’t, all I’m saying is as we currently understand the term they do not.
The difference in comments here is between those who show compassion for the suffering of animals - and, by extension, humans - versus those who do not and view this as merely political theater in their unlimited support of Elon.
I think it’s a bit more complicated than that. This could pave de way to getting rid of a lot of handicaps and diseases, not to mention fdvr. I care about monkeys, I just care more about paraplegics for instance.
I think that we as humans put ourselves above all other animals a lot. But as animals with a higher level of awareness, I feel that we have a responsibility to treat all other animals with respect.
If someone thinks it’s justified to experiment on animals, I see it as their moral obligation to do everything in their power to minimize the suffering that animal will experience.
Also, if this technology could potentially help with handicaps (big X to doubt moment tbh) I absolutely do not want Elon fucking Musk to be the one who owns the technology, so I hope they hit his company with the book.
That knowledge shouldn’t be gained through the barbaric butchery of helpless animals.The research should at the very least be conducted in a manner that is respectful to the animals.
There is no reason for them to live lives of terror only to die brutally. Considering how much this technology could advance humanity giving them more comfortable and smiling lives during this whole process costs effectively nothing.
It’s like the start of a terrifying science fiction movie where things are about to go horribly, horribly wrong.
He is so fucked over this, animal experimentation is incredibly tightly regulated. primates even more so.
Didn’t they just get FDA approval for human testing on this stuff?
They did!
If you compare the regulations in the US to Europe, it’s not tightly regulated at all lol
Consequences for the rich in America lol
We can only hope he pays for this. Or anything else he’s done.
At this point, who trusts musk enough to let him have control of their brain?
I mean, the same guy who’s other company’s car had a tendency to explode or run into people and things doesn’t instill confidence in me. Also, from a tech standpoint, there’s a lot of mistakes happening that seem to be happening a lot more since COVID.
It was enough for me to read the first sentence and just not read the rest. It’s all a variation on a theme.
Unfortunately as far as I know it is pretty standard for monkeys used to test brain interfaces to eventually get infected because of it and have to be put down.
I’m not sure whether the same problems are as common in humans; humans are much less likely to e.g. yank on the implant, especially if the reason they have an implant is to work around some kind of paralysis. And humans are allowed drugs that animals are not.
Many of them died after they heard about the Twitter rebranding. A spokesman said it was absolutely bananas.
“Science cannot move forward without heaps.”
Hey everyone I think it’s a Futurama quote. Stand down red alert.
Clickbait headline, no tldr? That’s a downvote for me dawg.
