Meta is planning to lay off employees on Wednesday in the unit of its metaverse-oriented Reality Labs division focused on creating custom silicon, two sources familiar with the matter told Reuters on Tuesday.
If the cuts are deep, they could hamper Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg’s project to build augmented and virtual reality products enabling access to a set of immersive virtual
VR is interesting to me. I have zero desire for a facebook product, I don’t care how good it is.
Zuckerberg has to realize he, as the messenger, is poisoning the future he wants to exist.
Unfortunately, Oculus was started by a Maga head so… I’m not sure who is worse. Probably the Maga head but Zuckerberg sold privacy data to Cambridge analytica.
It sucks, because I’ve listened to a ton of interviews with him discussing VR/AR and I actually think he is super interested in the tech and is doing pretty incredible stuff in the space. But the blatant disregard for people’s personal privacy and Facebook/Social Media’s destructive history prevents me from trusting Meta in this area and many others. What’s sad is that Zuck actually is pretty damn smart, and I think he’s one of the few billionaires that really understands tech. They’ve been open sourcing things and just getting better overall in a lot of ways but at the end of the day the trust isn’t there.
I loved the CV1 oculus. The moment Facebook integration started happening I noped the fuck out of there. Also can’t stand overly proprietary environments. Acquiescence to researchers like yan lecun would be the only reason I don’t absolutely detest meta at this point.
It would have been less bitter if they hadn’t promised that Facebook would never be required or integrated at the time Facebook bought them… just before they made it an integrated requirement.
This is the core problem. The overlap between people who use facebook and people who are interested in VR is not very big. Most people on facebook just want to see pictures of their grandchildren and are hardly the kinds of people who would be early adopters of technologies like this. VR enthusiasts on the other hand simply have no interest in whatever kinds of shit Zuckerberg has to offer. Some might hold their noses and try it anyway, but you’re just making your potential userbase smaller and smaller.
This idiotic “metaverse” thing has always been a hilarious joke and is doomed to fail. This has been obvious ever since it was announced. Zuckerberg got lucky with facebook turning out to be a great way to creep on^W^W keep in touch with friends and other contacts. He’s not a visionary and doesn’t have a clue how to build a new thing people want from scratch. But he thinks he does cause he got lucky with facebook.
I worked at a university years ago and saw some VR prototypes for things like medical/surgical training, remote interaction (remote surgery, hazmat, etc) and other things. Very cool uses of the technology where it makes a lot of sense.
Seeing the VR used there the way it was makes me completely uninterested in using it for any sort of social/personal use any time soon. VR clearly has a lot of niche applications, but not as a general social/entertainment platform.
I was bummed that they bought oculus, but now they’ve advanced the tech so much and made it so clear to the market that people want unrestricted vr that I’m hoping the whole debacle jumpstarts a stream deck equivalent, just a headset with decent tech running on open source software or minimally restricted software that just works.
That’s why the oculus was so good, they just released it it developers play with it, no logins, no required software environments, just creative fun
Same. I even tried it and it’s really cool, and at that price point I would… but meta. I even heard at one point they forced you to log in with your facebook account to use it. Wtf? I don’t even have one. So basically I’ll wait for the valve index 2.0. VR is not mature yet and they all have quirks and trade offs.
VR is interesting to me. I have zero desire for a facebook product, I don’t care how good it is.
Zuckerberg has to realize he, as the messenger, is poisoning the future he wants to exist.
It’s a shame that Oculus was gobbled up by them, and a shame that they seem to be the only ones capable of making an untethered unit.
I’ve used the quest, and could take or leave the built in stuff, mostly leave, but the untethered desktop VR experience was something else.
I just won’t ever buy a Facebook product.
They even pissed off John “Literal Rocket Scientist” Carmack enough to leave.
Weren’t they talking about adding ADs right in VR ?
Seriously, what a nightmare. You try to escape reality playing a video game in immersion through VR and you get served ads ?
That added to privacy issues at Facebook, I would never touch that product.
Unfortunately, Oculus was started by a Maga head so… I’m not sure who is worse. Probably the Maga head but Zuckerberg sold privacy data to Cambridge analytica.
I was quite sad when I crossed Occulus off my list following the acquisition.
I would have loved one.
It sucks, because I’ve listened to a ton of interviews with him discussing VR/AR and I actually think he is super interested in the tech and is doing pretty incredible stuff in the space. But the blatant disregard for people’s personal privacy and Facebook/Social Media’s destructive history prevents me from trusting Meta in this area and many others. What’s sad is that Zuck actually is pretty damn smart, and I think he’s one of the few billionaires that really understands tech. They’ve been open sourcing things and just getting better overall in a lot of ways but at the end of the day the trust isn’t there.
I loved the CV1 oculus. The moment Facebook integration started happening I noped the fuck out of there. Also can’t stand overly proprietary environments. Acquiescence to researchers like yan lecun would be the only reason I don’t absolutely detest meta at this point.
It would have been less bitter if they hadn’t promised that Facebook would never be required or integrated at the time Facebook bought them… just before they made it an integrated requirement.
VR is potentially cool, but meta is building a version of Second life that has less privacy and more monetization. Hard pass
This is the core problem. The overlap between people who use facebook and people who are interested in VR is not very big. Most people on facebook just want to see pictures of their grandchildren and are hardly the kinds of people who would be early adopters of technologies like this. VR enthusiasts on the other hand simply have no interest in whatever kinds of shit Zuckerberg has to offer. Some might hold their noses and try it anyway, but you’re just making your potential userbase smaller and smaller.
This idiotic “metaverse” thing has always been a hilarious joke and is doomed to fail. This has been obvious ever since it was announced. Zuckerberg got lucky with facebook turning out to be a great way to creep on^W^W keep in touch with friends and other contacts. He’s not a visionary and doesn’t have a clue how to build a new thing people want from scratch. But he thinks he does cause he got lucky with facebook.
I worked at a university years ago and saw some VR prototypes for things like medical/surgical training, remote interaction (remote surgery, hazmat, etc) and other things. Very cool uses of the technology where it makes a lot of sense.
Seeing the VR used there the way it was makes me completely uninterested in using it for any sort of social/personal use any time soon. VR clearly has a lot of niche applications, but not as a general social/entertainment platform.
I’m interested in VR, but the cost of decent, non-oculus hardware is prohibitive.
I think the Quest 3 now has DRM and a bunch of other intrusive components, so that’s definitely off the table.
Pico looks promising, will have to do more research.
Isn’t Pico even worse? It’s by Bytedance, the Chinese company behind TikTok.
Is it? Yeah maybe not then.
If this is what you were thinkng of, then yea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PICO_4
I’d rather get a Quest 3, at least you can use a separate Meta account now.
I was bummed that they bought oculus, but now they’ve advanced the tech so much and made it so clear to the market that people want unrestricted vr that I’m hoping the whole debacle jumpstarts a stream deck equivalent, just a headset with decent tech running on open source software or minimally restricted software that just works.
That’s why the oculus was so good, they just released it it developers play with it, no logins, no required software environments, just creative fun
I was ready to buy a vr headset until I realized the only one under 1000 was meta.
Nope.
Same. I even tried it and it’s really cool, and at that price point I would… but meta. I even heard at one point they forced you to log in with your facebook account to use it. Wtf? I don’t even have one. So basically I’ll wait for the valve index 2.0. VR is not mature yet and they all have quirks and trade offs.
HP Reverb G2?
I refuse to buy hp products. Hard pass.