Delta is fourth major U.S. airline to find fake jet aircraft engine parts with forged airworthiness documents from U.K. company::With forged airworthiness documents from U.K. company

      • Misconduct@startrek.website
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        Yeah no I’m gonna go ahead and continue to be ok with building aircrafts and working with dangerous things being regulated 💀

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            It’s not hard, but it is expensive. So why not fake it and pocket the difference? It’s not like that would literally kill people

          • MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world
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            It’s not necessarily about difficulty. It’s mostly about risk and consequences. If a company fucks up the screws I buy to hang up pictures, I might get a dent in my floor or a bigger hole in my wall. If a company fucks up the screws keeping a plane together, it might fall out of the sky.

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            Then why is it literally my job to work on machines that sole purpose is to find parts, yes aircraft fasteners even, that are not up to specification and reject them? If your metal is porous, it is weak. If your threads don’t make proper contact, they sheer, if the nut head is off perpendicular, it cracks. I could go on.

            These parts are rejected because their particular variances make them unaccountable; they will not behave as modeled. If you think it is not hard, I would love to know your method for producing oh something like 300 fasteners a minute with that degree of precision. If our machines let even one bad part through, we’re rediscussing our contract. A 5% false reject rate is considered acceptable over having any bad part go good…

            It is difficult, wouldn’t you say? Its a goddamn modern miracle, screws damnit

            PS also we work in micrometers, if you actually knew how small nanometers are… well you wouldnt have said that, cheers to learning

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        I don’t know why you’re getting down voted. Overregulation is crazy, I was watching this interview by the CEO of this company that explores the ocean named Stockton Rush, and he has the same argument that the government needed to stop regulating so much. I should look him up, I’m not sure what happened to him…

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        I think they are aiming for quality vs quantity. Flying is the safest way to travel long distances because of those regulations.

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        All regulation is written in blood. If there was no regulation, everyone would be cutting corners and we’d get daily titan submersible-like situations.

        Do you want a piece of suspension up your ass because a cab driver hit a road bump too hard?

        Do you want your legs amputated? Because we can make bumpers go lower and more pointy to improve fuel efficiency.

        If manufacturers could, they’d drop the catalytic converter and we’d be back to seeing/breathing cars spewing thick black smoke.

        All that and they would still charge you the same as now.

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    This is what right wing, libertarian capitalism gets you.

    Every fucking time.

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      Yea we should totally adopt the proven alternatives that are known to work so well and have much better civilian flights /s.

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          I must be living under a rock. which country on this reality is actually successfully doing so without capitalism?

          also where are the planes being built?

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      Look on the bright side here. What we have is a case of parts with some forged documentation. It’s not like planes had bananas instead of spark plugs. We had a supplier forge some of the very rigorous documentation we require for plane parts. And they got caught. Later than we might have liked, but they weren’t found out because some plane crashed.

      Honestly, if you accept that there will always be some bad actors out there, this looks a lot like a system that’s working.

    • SCB@lemmy.world
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      The UK? What else is corrupt there? Not very knowledgeable about it.

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        The UK Government has stopped court cases investigating corruption, as was the case with a particular Saudi arms deal. There’s the never ending corruption around members of the royal family selling influence (and property at inflated prices) to foreign elements, particularly from the Arabian Gulf but also former Soviet states.

        There’s the fact London has been the money laundering capital of the world for much of my life, this money has been used to influence politicians to turn a blind eye or even advocate for blatantly corrupt and abusive regimes.

        Tony Blair, a former head of government, is the best example of such. He has spent (at least) the past decade “advising” criminal regimes around the globe on how to massage their images.

        The UK is a pretty murky place to anyone who bothers to pay attention. The rule of law that they have established is for the sake of financial stability, to keep the charade going. It certainly isn’t for the benefit of the common man.

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          There’s the fact London has been the money laundering capital of the world for much of my life

          Had absolutely no idea about this. This is fascinating.

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            Suggested reading:

            Butler to the World: The Book the Oligarchs Don’t Want You to Read - How Britain Helps the World’s Worst People Launder Money, Commit Crimes, and Get Away With Anything - Oliver Bullough

            Money Land - Oliver Bullough

            The Establishment: And How They Get Away With It - Owen Jones

            Kleptopia - Tom Burgis

            Treasure Islands: Uncovering the Damage of Offshore Banking and Tax Havens - Nicholas Saxson

            Very Bad People: The Inside Story of the Fight Against the World’s Network of Corruption - Patrick Alley

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              I very much appreciate the recommendations but also I literally bust out laughing at that first title. They couldn’t make it just a bit longer? Even funnier juxtaposed with the other title by the same author lol

              If I didn’t Google these and know they existed I would have thought this was just straight up classic British humor.

      • qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee
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        Petty corruption is pretty decently under control (you can’t bribe a police officer if they pull you over), but institutional corruption, politicians amd their buddies, that had a field day with COVID measures and is very much alive and kicking.

        See this example of “legal” affairs that stink of corruption. A lot of land was force-bought to make way for a new high-speed line to be laid. Huge overruns later, the line has been chopped short, it will no longer run across certain tracts of land. So a tonne of land that was appropriated from citizens is now going to be sold off. I feel sure the price on those sales will be below market value and it will be sold to their buddies.

        Or Nick Clegg, the former deputy Prime Minister who, when he left government, went into a veeery cushy job at Meta.

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          Wild man. I had no idea. As an outside person with casual interest, I don’t come across this kind of info much. I appreciate it.

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      Fairly sure it’s just a top.

      No one else has the money to be corrupt. Although if any of you want to sponsor me, I’m up for it.

      • KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Sometimes the thought occurs to me that the only thing standing between me and being absurdly rich by way of saying reprehensible shit on a YouTube channel, is my inconvenient conscience

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    Find out how this happened and put new safeguards in place to prevent it from happening in the future

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Delta Air Lines Inc. has discovered unapproved components in “a small number” of its jet aircraft engines, becoming the latest carrier and fourth major US airline to disclose the use of fake parts.

    The suspect components — which Delta declined to identify — were found on an unspecified number of its engines, a company spokesman said Monday.

    The problematic pieces, which were certified by AOG, were detected during engine work by an unnamed third party, the spokesman said.

    As many as 21 of Delta’s engines could have been affected, according to Bloomberg calculations based on data provided by the airline, which would represent the most among US carriers that have disclosed a number.

    “Working with the overhaul provider, we are in the process of replacing those parts and remain in compliance with all FAA guidelines.”

    AOG last month was ordered by a London judge to hand over records to help identify additional suspect parts after GE and Safran filed a lawsuit seeking documents relating to “every single sale of products.”


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      That can happen for any kind of reason, there is no reason to assume its because of faked spare parts. Airplanes are designed to deal with this if and when it happens, engines can fail safely. Hell, engines these days can mostly explode safely.

      Flying is extremely safe because we had so many accidents in the past. Today it’s safer to fly than to drive or walk in the car infested cities, especially in the United States.

      In the Netherlands, cars are used less and less and those using them drive on very well designed and maintained infrastructure and as such we have very few casualties. In the US, infrastructure is barely maintained, people are barely trained to drive a car, rules are dumb as fuck and as a result, there are a huge punt of casualties from car crashes and accidei, yet I rarely see posts about that.