Norris on hards defending against Hamilton on softs was some serious driving. Hell of a day for Lando.
Thought for sure McLaren made the wrong call there and Hamilton would fly by. But very impressed by Lando there. He earned that 2nd place. Hopefully they can keep this up.
I still maintain it was the wrong call. It only worked because Lando drove perfectly. If Lando made even the slightest mistake, he would have lost that position.
Expecting your driver to be prefect is not the right call.
Stella said on C4 that they intended to go for the hards because of the vsc, but the full safety changed things, however they didn’t have time to then get the soft tyres ready in the pits. Basically there was a higher chance of losing positions by the time lost switching to softs in the pit lane.
I thought it was fairly obvious that the vsc would turn full based on where the car stopped so that was still a small error on their part, but yeah, there’s always lots of things to take into account and it’s not always a simple x or y decision.
I was honestly a little confused when it turned out to be a VSC. I figured the way it was stopped on the straight there was no way Marshalls could retrieve it safely.
My comment even said safety car when I saw the car stopped, and I’d hit post before the virtual part came up
Interesting thanks for sharing that.
We really gotta slap a nsfw blur to these things
Brilliant driving from Lando, was really worried for mclaren when they put him on hards at the end but it worked out
Yes, he really had to wring out that podium step with some tough, but fair, defending while Hamilton killed his tyres. It’s good that he trusted the team and then bloody well made the strategy work. Great combination. Hamilton was lucky to be up there, anyway.
If you ignore Max this season is actually very competitive.
Can’t help but laugh because the camera’s pretty much never showed max as its just a forgone conclusion and quite boring now.
I said the same exact thing after the race. The rest of the field is so much more interesting. Without red bull this would be one of the best seasons.
Merc, Aston, Ferrari and McLaren all fighting over 2 podium spots is cool! Perez is just chilling for a year.
It’s crazy how Perez has fallen this year. Towards the beginning, I thought he might be able to fight with Verstappen for the Championship. Now I’m not sure if he will still have a seat at Red Bull next year.
In his favour is the fact that I’m not sure who they have to take his seat in the short term. Not sure either of the Alpha Tauri drivers would be promoted, and DeVries is fighting for the AT seat as it is. There’s Dan but I’m not sure he’d be promoted to the lead team. If he got a seat I think it’d be DeVries’ on a short term contract.
I think they had an option on Albon, so if the conditions of that transfer to Williams are still favourable to RB maybe they can bring him back, but not sure they would. They did back him on the year off and kept him on the grid though, so who knows.
We don’t have visibility of it but maybe there’s a wildcard in the group of drivers where they can poach a driver by them triggering a performance clause in their contact that allows a transfer to the front runner team.
There’s a few drivers outside F1 that get mentioned but it’d be a big showing of faith to pull one of those into the Redbull.
Given where we’re at, I think Perez might be in trouble for end of next season if he can’t turn it around. I assume the team would expect him to take 2nd in the drivers championship this year and anything less will put a stack of pressure on the seat. Right now I don’t think it’s a given he’ll take second. That said, he may be safe for the remainder of his current contract, through to end of next year, if there’s not a better proposition and Redbull is still winning.
Maybe they should bring Vettel back.
I can’t see any way Perez has a seat at RB next season. I’m not 100% sure he’ll have one by the end of this season.
End of season? Let’s see what happens next month during the summer break.
Great race from McLaren, surprising the pace they suddenly have here!
I feel for Piastri, would have loved for him to get his first podium here.
Not only was he robbed P3 by a Ferrari engine, wtf is this DotD?!
Lando Norris - 45.5% Lewis Hamilton - 12.1% Oscar Piastri - 10.8% Sergio Perez - 8.1% Max Verstappen - 5.1%
10.8%?! That should’ve been in the 20s at least!
How tf did Lewis get the second most votes for lucking his way onto the podium with a well-timed SC?
Home GP always has a boost in DotD voting
Agreed. I would chalk it up to the British home crowd voting heavily in favor of their guys.
It’s an online global vote though.
I really wish spoilers weren’t in the headline
I agree, or in the thumbnail!! So frustrating when you’re waiting for the highlights show on TV and scrolling only to have it spoiled for you!! 🙄
The admin of the sub claimed earlier today a mod team is being put together so I hope we’ll have clearer rules and better enforcement soon. This sub is much more lively right now but !formula1@lemmy.ml is better moderated. Bit of a shame.
I’m subbing to whichever doesn’t allow title spoilers and blocking the other
We went through this back in the day on r/Formula1, banning spoilers restricts the conversation.
I get that sometimes you’re not able to watch live, restrict the Formula1 content you consume during that time.
You can’t have the entire F1 community tiptoe around you because you’ve not watched the race.
Having said that, other race series should be spoiler-free in this community.
How does making headline being ‘British Grand Prix results discussion’ restrict the conversation?
This stuff is being federated across multiple instances in the ‘All’ feed
It doesn’t. That is such a nonsense argument
Yeah, fuck I got spoiled by lemmy. That’s a first.
Same. I was being careful to slowly scroll so I could see if a post was from c/formula1 (my app shows the community at the top), but then something loaded and my feed jumped, putting this post right in the center of my screen. Oh well.
Yeah wish the title would omit the winner.
Ha! I can take that risk as it feels great to see this post have over 250 votes in six hours. Lemmy is getting more traction.
Community*
I just don’t open Lemmy (or reddit, before), if I don’t watch the race live.
I had blocked the sub on Reddit from my homepage after being spoiled a couple of times. Hope we get that feature in the Lemmy apps someday.
Wefwef/Voyager can block communities. Don’t know how it works, since I haven’t used it, but the button is there.
On Wefwef, it completely blocks the community and not just filter it from homepage. It just needs to be tweaked and get a filter for homepage, but it’s good that the option is there. I might just send a feedback on this feature.
Hmm. Maybe one should submit a request for a ‘spoiler block’ feature
I agree but forgot there was a race this weekend as I had to work.
I’ve never understood the value of a thread that spoils the race results. I wish we could just post a race results discussion thread without putting the results in the title or image.
VER NOR HAM sounds like a cozy little German town with a great pub
Great race overall, probably equally as good as the Austria Sprint.
McLaren was the headliner and Norris rightly got all the plaudits for an amazing drive, but it’s a shame more fuss hasn’t been raised about Piastri. He would most likely have had a podium if not for the unlucky safety car and continues to show that the hype was not unwarranted. It’s going to be very interesting to see what he can do in a car that can actually perform.
Aston continues to struggle, though this track was never going to be suited for them, and Stroll delivered a patented yo-yo performance by following up a solid showing in Austria by being very poor today. Alonso did what he could and displayed some great defensive positioning, but 7th was probably the best they could hope for here. Hungary should be a good track for Aston and so that’s when we’ll get a true measure of how far behind the pack they’ve fallen.
Shambolic race weekend by Ferrari, though their car seemed just awful here. Wasn’t fast enough on the medium and couldn’t get temps into the hards.
Not much to say about Red Bull, I feel like we’ve seen this race multiple times already this season from them. It was nice seeing Max at least briefly involved in battles, but otherwise it was another comfortable victory for him while Perez fucked his quali and executed an unremarkable bare-minimum recovery drive.
Shout-out to two drivers who will be forgotten this race. Gasly was doing really well until his car
did an Alpinegot Strolled, so it’s unfortunate he probably won’t get any credit, and finally a solid race by Sargent, but he didn’t get any points so I imagine nobody will have noticed.EDIT: thanks eroc1990 for pointing out the contact with Stroll was harder than I caught live and so Stroll was probably more to blame than Alpine.
Gasly’s car didn’t do an Alpine. It just got Strolled.
Was the contact that bad? I know they touched but it didn’t look forceful enough to break Gaslys suspension. I’ll look at it again.
It looked like it to me. The clip starts here on the race highlights. Once Stroll returns to within track limits, it looks like direct wheel to wheel with harder contact on the rear right, which seems to have been what caused the suspension to break. at ~6:43 they show the onboard from Gasly’s view and it was hard enough to jolt him, and only after Stroll made contact did the Alpine begin to crab.
EDIT: Fixing grammar/caps.
I think you might be right, I’ll edit the post.
What a performance by McLaren! So impressed with Lando’s driving in that last stint. Shame for Oscar, but P4 in his first F1 British GP as a rookie is nothing to be ashamed of.
I think if they didn’t coward out on the hards than Piastri could have gotten his first podium. I’m honestly kinda angry at the McLaren pitwall.
They 100% should not have been on the hards, but in the end the softs did wind up falling away from those that used them, so it wasn’t completely boneheaded.
I think you’re right but it just hurt to see Oscar around a second behind Lewis coming around the last corner. The Papayas we’re looking so good I cant imagine Oscar couldn’t have made that up in the last sprint. So happy for them regardless, however.
The timing of the stop is just as bad as the choice of compound, but you can’t really pre-plan for a VSC or an SC. Still, though, Oscar was super, super close in the final sector of the last lap. I’m sure Ham wasn’t pushing super hard because he just wanted to bring it home, but one or two more laps and I think Oscar could have sniped that last podium spot.
Okay amazing race but this is way out line for a spoiler title and image. I’m glad I didn’t pick up my phone in the middle of watching or before I started, there are plenty of us in this community that have to watch races not live and we deserve to not have the results ruined like this. This should be a clear rules violation and the post deleted.
If you aren’t going to watch live, block the community from your feed until you watch. r/formula1 went through this same debate years ago and found that censoring all posts during and after a race stifled the discussion, and it would be the same result here.
Literally all that’s required is not have it plastered on the title and in the thumbnail. “British Grand Prix 2023 Discussion” is perfectly fine, and btw, is what the other formula 1 community is doing, and it doesn’t appear to be stifling discussion over there.
I don’t know, I think you taking care/curate you intake of news, and therefore intake of current F1 news, is on you, not the international F1 community wanting to discuss the race live. Why would the rest of the F1 fans over the world put things on hold because of you? Honest question. I know there are more like you but let’s be real, that number is a fragment of the people who watch live, I suspect.
Nobody is asking anyone to put anything on hold. A “post race discussion thread” would be the same discussion with a non-spoiler title.
One of the rare races that enjoyed this season.Redbull dominance continues to killing my passion for this sport.
Did you have any passion left? Because if this current dominance is depleting your passion I wonder what was left after the 2014-2020 period. Are you still a F1 fan or are you clinging on and 1 more year of dominance will ruin F1 for you? Because I have some new for you if this is the case: Max will dominate some more years I think.
Or some other team starts to dominate. Say if that was your team/driver, would you also lose interrest in F1?
dont support any of the teams.I love competition and i know that this is not first time history we see dominant teams but I just want to see 1st and 2nd drivers competing for race win.
Sad to see c/formula1 spoiling the race result plainly in the title just like r/formula1. Some things never change…
How do you propose this is solved?
By making the title literally anything other than “[drivers name] wins race”. “British Grand Prix Post-Race Discussion” would be literally the same thread in all but name. But people who didn’t get to watch it live for whatever don’t have to worry about spoilers that don’t need to happen
By letting us filter the subs in the homepage. So I can still visit the sub but don’t see any posts on the homepage to avoid being spoiled. Or, not have the results in the title and add a NSFW tag to the picture.
I don’t think the problem is the title… it’s expecting the whole world to wait while you catch up. Just don’t visit forums till you’ve watched the race…
This isn’t formulaoneforum.com. Lemmy, just like reddit before it, is a service that allows me to follow a massive variety of topics in the same place. This post could we’ll have been the first post that loaded when I opened the the page, openly spoiling the result before I have a chance to look away or hide it.
You think it’s reasonable that a person should need to avoid using this service entirely until they find time to watch a race just so you can have a post with the winners name clearly written?
What is gained for anyone by naming the post in such a manner?
I hear you but I also think if spoilers upset one so much one should avoid any risk of exposure. Lemmy is just one service on the World Wide Web. Risking being on the latter and not expecting spoilers from somewhere, not just Lemmy seems like a fools errand to me.
As for what is gained, if I see the current title I immediately know which thread to go into to discuss the race which I’m sure may be the case for many others as well so it helps keep the discourse together. A non descriptive title would definitely miss my eye. It could just be my adhd riddled brain which has led me to be militant about avoiding the Internet till I’ve watched the race but this is just my viewpoint.
Every time I see Max win I always think it’s saying. Thax for stoppin, and letting me take first.
I’m happy for Lando and McLaren, but wtf was that Ferrari strategy? They were even more clownish than usual
Their tyre deg is just too high
What was Plan B, Ricci? I forgot.
Bad decisions
Part of me thinks that plan b was really bad and Carlos was daring them to say it on radio to make them think twice about it.
