• zcd@lemmy.ca
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    Crushed? Or drove away tons of OC creators and active members leaving a bot filled wasteland?

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      I mean, it’s a victory if they shout it loudly enough, right? A lie repeated long enough, so it goes:

      Company is going bankrupt, users are gone, laying off the bottom quartile of the company, but they stopped the protest! Etc.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Reddit_API_controversy

      https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/reddits-golden-geese-foul-up-its-ipo-plans-2023-06-16/

      It’s like reading the top two lines of a disaster report and declaring victory. Fuck Reddit.

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        Even during the protest a lot of users thought it was caused by “power-mad” mods, some people just eat what they’re fed.

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      Well, I still visit Reddit once a week since there are communities there that don’t yet exist here (or they are nearly empty).

      I’m now all the time on Lemmy and am even much more active than what I ever was on Reddit, but I only have so much time.

      I noticed there are slightly less quality posts in some subreddits, but I wouldn’t call Reddit crushed.

      In fact, subscribers in all the subreddits I used to follow are actually up and even by a lot, while Lemmy users don’t really seem to increase by much (though I’d like them to).

      I’d like to see a sudden growth in Lemmy and fall of Reddit, but I don’t think it’s anywhere near (though I’ll keep doing my part here!)

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        The comments on Reddit are way worse now, it’s extremely noticeable. Look at comments on /r/science for example. They’re all shitty jokes which used to get deleted.

        The vast majority of subs are completely unmoderated now or taken over by a small group of people. Like /r/worldnews allowing people to openly support literal genocide of Arabs.

        Reddit quality absolutely took a hit after this debacle.

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          Reddit always had a problem with far right/anti science dogwhistlers, but it also seems like it’s gotten much worse. Maybe I was just desensitized and I’m noticing it more because I don’t go there much, or maybe it is actually worse because it’s an election year, but it also wouldn’t surprise me if the .01% of frequent commentors who left full-time for Lemmy represent a significant brain drain.

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        I’d like to see a sudden growth in Lemmy and fall of Reddit, but I don’t think it’s anywhere near

        I don’t. Let the idiots stay on reddit. Leave lemmy how it is. Is it so terrible that one might have to visit reddit to find some niche communities?

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      🙄

      Crushed. Lots lots more of over at reddit as well as a smaller percent reposting.

      Lemmys front page is a ton of bots reposting content from Reddit.

      Neither of the services have a lot of OC.

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        It took a couple weeks but I’ve found that blocking some bot accounts and adjusting the sorting on the app I use has plenty of fresh content with active posts. It isn’t exactly the same as reddit in its prime, but I shouldn’t expect it to be either.

        It’s causing me to branch out into other topics and conversations that I probably would’ve missed on a gigantic platform like reddit. I think reddit made it easy to see interesting content because of how long it had to develop into a community. Lemmy is still a bit jumbled and fragmented, but the community seems to be sticking around and forming a new identity apart from reddit.

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          Mind sharing which bots to block? Some bots are useful, so I’d rather not hide all bots.

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        Yeah, turns out the lawless fediverse needs a few laws and a governing board.

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      I sometimes use Instagram though and it’s soo much bot and ai contend.

      Idk Reddit cuz I don’t go there anymore, but it seems the internet is fakker and fakker.

      I just hope it’s real people that im messing with here in Lemmy. Because at least y’all still fight and argue XD, the comments aren’t brain dead.

      Except for these guys that I just talked to that said they didn’t like Oppenheimer

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      This is so true, when you go there now it’s full of “reply guys”, gatekeepers and trolls. There’s little to no sense of community and the money grabbing is even more upfront and obvious.

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    I havent used reddit at all since August and from June 12 to August i was on the site for ~10 minutes total. I am a total lemmy user now with no need to use reddit at all. I dont even miss it since i can get everything here i did over their.

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      Same. I had an account that was probably 12+ years old. Reddit was a huge part of my recreational schedule.

      I genuinely prefer Lemmy. The lack of algorithms pushing engagement is good for the soul. It’s here when I want it and I can leave it whenever I’m done.

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        Reddit was a big part of my day too. I had redreader easily accessible so i could just pop it open whenever i wanted to. Now Thunder has taken its place.

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      I did the same, but athough I love this place, there’s still a huge scarcity of contents. Sometimes, as a lurker, to find more stuff. Here we’re just an handful, thus I cannot still find here what I used to find on Reddit.

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        What is really lacking is all the very specific communities centered around common interests. The more specific the harder, especially if it’s not a traditionally nerdy subject. I mean, there’s an obvious bias, and I won’t pretend I am not part of it.

        Those used to have dedicated forums, but Reddit manage to capture them all for convenience, and now very few subsist. A good part of what’s left has been abandoned to AI spambots.

        Part of this activity is now on discord, but the invite structure isn’t great for those. It makes this content hard to discover and impossible to search if you’re not aware of it.

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      I’ve only been there when DuckDuckGo has directed me there in a search.

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    IMO they didn’t crush anything?

    The apathetic remained.

    Those who have niche communities that aren’t available elsewhere likely remained.

    Several of my subscribed subs are completely gone or functionally extinct due to lack of participation.

    Anecdotally I find reduced participation in other subs, people seem less willing to have a discussion.

    Personally I’ve moved on to Lemmy/KBin/etc. and spend most of my time there now.

    But “crushed”?

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    Oh yeah I feel soooooo defeated and crushed just like soooooo sad that I have to be here and not with spez

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    I know how everyone just wants to pipe up and say, “well it didn’t crush me hur hur”, but I actually watched the video. It’s a good record of what went down. I wish it would’ve mentioned Reddit alternatives, but it’s still solid work.

    And to anyone who still maintains that the protest has fatally wounded Reddit, look, I’m on your side but Reddit is still the 800 lb gorilla of link aggregation, and most folks still don’t get why they should care about API pricing.

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    I deleted my account and it was liberating. Nowadays I only go there when I want to look up something for a game on Google.

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      Unfortunately, the vast storehouse of information on Reddit makes it impossible to remove it from your life completely. Of course, a lot of that was built up before the douchebag decided to kill third party apps and tell Reddit users that they didn’t really matter that much to him. You mean the people whose comments built your site brick by brick? Okay, sure. Why would they be important?

      If I’m that unimportant to you, I can be unimportant elsewhere.

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          Right? My brother in Christ, I could add a single line to one text file and reddit would be gone from my life except for the fact that people on Lemmy seem to never shut up about it. I keep it around for research, but I could live without that too, if it mattered.

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      I use a 3rd party API modded app with a burner a and check on niche communities that Lemmy doesn’t have yet…I do not comment, upvote or engage.

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    I started using reddit in 2011. Was nuts to see the changes it underwent. A lot of them bad.

    Since leaving reddit during that protest, been more than happy to call Lemmy home. Especially when I go back to browse reddit occasionally and see how incredibly toxic and negative it is all the time. I don’t know if I was blind to it before or if it got worse. Every comment thread is awful. They focus on the negative of everything and are just bitter and angry.

    Place sucks ass.

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      I’d you disagree with the wrong mod or say something “offensive” banned. They look at your appeal and nothing changes.

      At this point it’s just adult children “working” in their parents basement not making any money.

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        Bro if you comment in a subreddit the mods don’t like you’re instantly banned, even if ironic. Mods over there are on a power trip and the lack of a modlog means zero accountability.

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          Even with a modlog, the mods are clearly removing comments. I can’t tell you how many times I’ll click on a link that reads anywhere from 10-25 “more comments in this thread,” only for it to tell me there are no more comments when I click to load them.

          I don’t know how bans work over here, but I have seen lemmings complain that they got banned temporarily, but never got any notifications of the ban.

          It’s clearly better than what happened to Reddit, but there still seem to be some bad faith actors about.

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            Well yeah they’re going to exist everywhere. But with Lemmy you have some accountability. On reddit you have none.

            As for bans with no notifications, that’s not on the mods. That is on the developers of Lemmy and why so many people are frustrated with them. They’re ignoring admins, have no real timeline on feature development, and aren’t focusing on major issues that have been reported. The Lemmy Devs keep dragging their feet and if they’re not careful it could end up with someone making a lemmy competitor that still works with Lemmy. I know I’d go straight for it as a mod and as a user.

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    Hey, I’m over here in Methadone Reddit, getting by. It’s not as fun as Reddit used to be, but after the bug-eyed lemur boy decided to be a leading tech giant™ and fuck over his users in the process, I decided it was time to amscray. Sorry, King Julien. It was fun for a while, before your embarrassing power trip, but now you’re just going to have to kiss my mad-ass-gasgar.

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    Yeah, they threatened and when I didn’t budge, they disabled my account. I found out lately, because I have been gone from that hellhole since summer. Somehow they forgot to reopen my subreddit I’ve marked as Private. I’m (was) the sole admin. Well, go fuck yourself Spaz.

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    The only thing that matters to me is that the vast majority of my interactions on Reddit are shite ones with negative assholes, while the vast majority of my interactions here are pretty chill. Reddit won’t die, but if it did… I wouldn’t miss it one bit.

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    Reddit didn’t do shit. Lemmy and Kbin crushed it by existing as alternatives. People who were unhappy just went there and settled.

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    I’m almost glad they did this. It cut my social media time down drastically, and really nothing of value was lost.