After December 2018, which is when WordPress 5.0 released?

It’s Medium, whaddya expect?

Yeah, I agree with telling them it, but I also don’t like following up on the same thing in multiple places. I’m putting it here so Inter can respond there later.

There’s still the compelling-ish point of them only contributing 40 hours to the project per week, though.

Let’s just keep this conversation to the same thread.

IMO that part’s entirely fine. After all, it is a webhosting engine for WordPress. Would you say the same about e.g. NameMC.com?

Good luck! Not sure if you have time, but to their credit, they do have a handbook on making themes. Since WordPress 5.0 block editor, which a lot of people apparently abhor, themes are mostly HTML templates (with a lot of WP-specific invis comments) and CSS styles.

That is the question. I think this is all perfectly achievable by only writing new, separate software to selectively gatekeep the configuration files without changing the source code of WordPress itself. Like I said, not dedicating more resources to WordPress.org doesn’t give WP Engine the moral high ground either, though.

You can’t, and I’m disagreeing that what they were doing counts as modification.

They released 5.4 in August.

It’s still a protected trademark, just that people have called everything a dremel

But is gatekeeping the configuration files or wrapping around the software really modification?

I think we should agree to disagree that it was modified enough here.

Yes they can. It’s actually WordPress, so it’s nominative.

At most, they just ambiguously used “Powered by WordPress Experts” once. I don’t see how the evidence misleads people into thinking there was an endorsement.

IMO, dumb people confuse stuff all the time, like the Minecraft Gamepedia with the Minecraft Wikia back then. The meager amount of evidence presented does not convince me that WP Engine has done any actual harm to the WordPress brand.

But yeah, the smart way out would’ve been adding a “WP Engine is not associated with WordPress.org”, at least one below the “WP ENGINE®, VELOCITIZE®, TORQUE®, EVERCACHE®, and the cog logo service marks are owned by WPEngine, Inc.” footer. All in the past now, though. At the best both companies are tomfools.

https://kbin.melroy.org/m/technology@lemmy.world/t/480078/WordPress-org-bans-WP-Engine-blocks-it-from-accessing-its-resources/comment/4249030#entry-comment-4249030

that’s a local text editor. CMSes are for e.g. hosting blogs

That’s fair. Interesting how blanket advertising often means the opposite of better.

Like JohnEdwa said, using a trademark to refer to someone else’s product is considered nominative fair use: “referencing a mark to identify the actual goods and services that the trademark holder identifies with the mark.”

There’s Contao, Drupal, Blogger, Shopify, Wix, Squarespace…