Theres just one thing quite obvious in this thread:
You love to state your opinion, even though you spread nonsense by that. And you also like to talk shit about other people when someone presents you facts that you don’t like
Viva la free speech I guess
No, it’s obviously not. I recommend informing yourself.
“impose their beliefs”
It seems like you confuse it with religion. It’s not about beliefs, it’s about whether or not we find certain actions in our society to be morally wrong. Either you can justify your actions morally or you can’t. For example: “Beating women is fine”. Can it be justified morally? No. Can you prove through logic that it’s wrong? Yes, easily, by simply pointing out that trivial reasons like personal pleasure aren’t justification to bring suffering upon other individuals. If you’d, however, insist on beating women, how would you call that?
Nice example of how not to communicate. But what has this to do with what we’re talking about?
No. It seems like you don’t know what veganism is. It’s a philosophical stance and therefore completely different to any religion. It’s based n logical arguments. If you don’t like the suffering of animals and when they’re harmed without any necessity, it’s very likely that your core moral beliefs are the same as of any vegan.
It is logical. That’s why nobody can argue with the logic of the core arguments.
I’m curious. how is it illogical for you?
I see, I see
If I think about the first time playing mgs, it just blew my mind what you can do there. Even the simple things, like when the soldiers saw your footsteps in the snow. What they did with that game back then was extraordinary in many ways.
There’s always a person who can’t just take the joke
Vegans bad, we get it. How dare they to live according to their moral beliefs
Anybody would do that?
I think you don’t understand the definition then. When herbivores happen to eat some animals, like when cows eat baby chickens, it doesn’t make them carnivores just for doing so. They’re still herbivores
Don’t confuse that with veganism though
Well, and then there is an interview in regard to animal rights, where it seems that he has no clue what he is taking about.
I like him as long as he speaks about astro physics. But sometimes, when he goes into a field that he doesn’t know very well…
And why a tattoo? Is this for real?
For sure!
I used the sound effects of metal gear for years on my phone :D (https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLzY7EDSZRz-dy23XaO11b2-zZGfTwoaY)
I should tell my family that they must play the metal gear solid game over sound at my funeral lol
Do you also have many special memories with those games?
What an awesome game. Metal gear 1 and 2 will always have a special place in my heart
And many different human ethical systems exist. If you believe that eating animals is always unethical, that is your ethic. If that means you believe I am unethical, then that viewpoint is valid within your system of ethics.
Sorry, but that is just a very poor try of avoiding the argument. What you say here is basically true, because if I move to other countries, I can do bad things that are under their umbrella of “local ethics”. Like moving somewhere east where women are still seen as property and where I can abuse them.
Does that mean that we cannot challange “local ethics”? No. You can challange any ethical standpoint. And you should.
But you avoid the core argument by stating empty phrases like the one above :/
the only way to change a person’s ethics is to appeal to them by showing the commonalities between belief systems, then showing them the benefits of certain variations that you believe.
In this case I can simply use logic. Logic shows that there is no justification for the suffering and deaths of all these innocent animals as long as there is no necessity for that. Don’t believe me? Try to justificate it right now :)
Neither you nor I like animal suffering. The difference is, I’ve seen plenty of animals lead relaxed, happy lives, that end painlessly before the animal is turned into meat. I understand that the notion repulses you.
I grew up with many animals that all had to die. I saw how they died, with pain and without pain. But the difference is that, even though I was tought that this “is OK”, I challanged this belief system, which is quite easy. And the main difference between me and other people is that I accept if I’m wrong, I do admit that and, after this first step, I change things.
I saw that it’s wrong to just consume and not give a fuck about the environment. That’s why I’m changing a lot even though it’s highly uncomfortable at times.
I saw that it’s wrong to judge people. So I stopped that
I saw that it’s wrong to pay for animals to suffer and die, when there is no necessity to do so. That’s why I started a vegan lifestyle
You kind of explained your viewpoint, but you didn’t say anything constructive in regard to the arguments. So it’s nice that you try to explain your viewpoint, that’s something I really appriciate, but you should atleast try to state some arguments to the arguments that have been told. Right?
Thank you, I’ll find my way :)
How lol, Books are the only thing where I find it hard to … well, get a legal copy from cough
Al’right, thank you. I have it on my wishlist, it’s just that I don’t trust games anymore, which is why I wait for better deals. But the positive reviews speak for themselves in this case
Counter Strike Source was like chess if you ask me. In CS GO they added this gambling system, which made the game less attractive for me
Would you recommend it to the current price (24,50€) or would you recommend to wait for better deal?
Exactly. I don’t think it’s hard to see what OP meant here.
And I think it’s still the case that they prefer certain types of people to push in the music industry
Funny how you talk about them like they’re bigots when you’re the one preaching so hard against them lol