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16·1 year agoSome are outside the 50 year mark by a decade or two but it shows in the last 50 years
I wish I lived in your world where time is non-linear.
Wars China has been in, in the last 50 years:
- Sino-Vietnamese War
No other state that uses its secret service to kill dissidents abroad.
10·1 year agoThe left of the US overtone window is very much right wing.
https://annas-archive.org/scidb/10.2307/826217/
I cannot find much about Soviet-German relations in it either.
Not just after the invasion of Poland, right up until the invasion of the Soviet Union.
On the Russian side, General Thomas, Chief of the German War Industry Department, recorded that “the Russians carried out their deliveries as planned, right up to the start of the attack. Even during the last few days, transports of India rubber from the Far East were completed by express transit trains.”30
This was not because the Russians did not expect to be attacked. As early as September 18, 1940, the Germans learned about anti-German propaganda in the Red Army, and interpreted it as a response to fear of attack by Germany.31 The Kremlin fulfilled its economic commitments to the end because it was determined to give Hitler no cause to attack. Until late in the day, also, the industrial and war materials received from Germany were a very important supplement to Russia’s armament efforts. The raw materials which Germany received were mostly perishable, while the arms and machines received by Russia remained when war came.The Cold War & Its Origins, 1917-1960, Vol. I, Denna F. Flemming, 1961, Chapter 6.
I’m pushing back against the notion that only “guilty nazis” were hurt by the soviets.
Ok… And I never said that?
Except that the Soviets did not kill everyone. They did not do something similar to the holocaust.
Well, you said specifically (only said) they shouldn’t have committed war crimes, which to some extent indicates that they should have gone into Poland. If you had a problem with them going into Poland, you should have talked about that and not brought up a different thing.
Why are you talking to me if you don’t want to? You can just… not.
Also I am not your bro.
Also please stop deleting your comments.
I’m asking those that believe the Soviets shouldn’t have entered. You seem to believe that the Soviets should, but that they should not have done war crimes. And I would agree, not that I have any knowledge of that, but I am not asking you.
You are doing holocaust trivialization with that second-to-last paragraph. While the things listed are bad, they are by no means worse than the Nazis.
Since we’re starting this debate again, I do wish to ask the people that think the Soviets shouldn’t have gone into Poland: what should the Soviets have done?
With benefit of hindsight and access to whatever formerly-secret documents, what is the best course of action for them?
14·1 year agoNot “most recently” on those two, that’s been a thing since (at least) 1948.
Why then had the Munich men refused all through the Spring and Summer to accept the only terms for an alliance with Russia which could mean anything to Russia? It was, says Schuman, because “all preferred the destruction of Poland to the Soviet defence of Poland. All hoped that the sequence would be a German-Soviet war over the spoils.” Is this a too stern judgment? It fits Ambassador Henderson, who told Hitler, on August 23, that he preferred a German-Soviet agreement to an Anglo-Soviet agreement.
Emphasis mine.
The Cold War & Its Origins, Vol. I, Denna F. Flemming, 1961, Chapter V
No, the source lists it as being pp 46-64 from The Soviets Expected It
I didn’t even realise it was an excerpt.
.ml isnt leftist in the same way as hexbear and lemmygrad, there aren’t any rules about being a lib. But since the mods are leftists it does lean more towards it.