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  • You got me here, wasn’t even aware that the Mercedes system is officially a level 2 with Steer Control that is supposed to do much better than seen in the video. I still think they should have compared with the more basic Autopilot, though, as this is what consumer report evaluated and the safety problems of Tesla’s lack of driver monitoring are there.

    I edit my first comment according to what I learned through the discussion :)


  • I just care about proper and honest reporting. I’d have a Tesla any day over a Mercedes, for many reasons, but bashing systems based on the wrong assumptions is wrong. They are showing a line keeping assistant that requires steer control at all times (Merc) and a system that aims to be unsupervised - only that it should supervise and doesn’t do it properly, hence the lower score in many tests and the federal investigations in the USA.


  • MB Driver Assist could be compared with Tesla Autopilot. FSD does obviously much more in that is a “Level 3 beta”, albeit always level 2 because of its development stage. The yet to be released Drive Pilot from Mercedes - the Level 3 automated driving system - could be compared with Tesla FSD, that is a comparison I would gladly see!

    Btw, the start of the video on the consumer report evaluation is about Driver Assist and Autopilot. The car in the video then runs FSD.





  • You are right, I don’t know if he didn’t have a choice. But if a hospital is just 20km away, I wonder if just calling an ambulance would have been the easier and smarter thing to do. The fact that he could get health care and arrived safely is awesome - and I personally cheer any advancement in the automotive driving field - but this story shows more of the problems of Teslas marketing approach and fail to implement driver attention assessment systems. There are more advanced and safe ways to approach automated driving, see Mercedes.