Okay, but how do you live like that

Not mine, just a pic I found online

Doesn’t the nature of Lemmy (needing a refresh, branched comment chains) preclude that?

Why not just start an IRC channel or whatever?

Cats, I think.

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Yeah, and they’re not gonna stop there. Like, they’ve openly announced as much since Trump became president-elect.

Don’t worry, just like how it was only fair that Ukraine and American minorities get genocided if Gaza was going to get genocided, abstaining voters have likewise decided it’s only fair for the West Bank to suffer genocide if Gaza is going to suffer genocide.

“Half of Gaza”

“Ceasefire”

Christ. You really aren’t paying attention, are you?

All those people who tried to save Palestinians must really regret not voting.

Tried to save Palestinians by ensuring the ethnic cleansing of all of Palestine. What a wonderful lot you are.

Yes, it’s definitely Palestinians we’ve been criticizing, well-known for their ability to vote in American elections.

And you were trying to do that by throwing a whole other demographic under the bus.

Yes, of course, that’s what I was trying to do by advocating for the less bad of two options. /s

Like, this wasn’t “I’m sacrificing the Palestinian people for my own safety”, it was “This is literally the least bad option for Palestine as well.” People in Palestine understood this. But apparently it’s too emotionally charged for some online ‘leftists’.

We will never go forward if we continue on in this manner instead of having solidarity, but that can never happen if you guys keep interpreting warnings and advice as Russian bots **and use that as an opportunity to tear down others, plug your ears, and prop up a genocide. **

This is quite hilarious considering the same people you’re defending.

And ya, I voted for Harris, they had some good policies, but it was a messaging thing.

See, every time a Dem loses, I’m told it’s messaging, but every time it’s pointed out what messages the Dem actually put out, it’s drowned out by the fact that both left and right do nothing but beat the drum on whatever they see as the Dem candidate’s weakness regardless of what their strengths are.

There was also stuff they could’ve said to appease the Muslim voters while still being vague for the pro-genocide people, like “We will uphold the law with regards to selling weapons to allies.” It’s not a 100% yes on the arms embargo but it gives hope to people looking for any lifeline on the Gaza issue. It’s like what she about the trans thing.

I don’t know, maybe something like saying the Palestinian people must be helped to “realize their right to dignity, security, freedom and self-determination” while calling for a ceasefire and saying she “will not be silent” on Gazan suffering?

Oh, wait, that’s right, the selfsame people who said “Calling for a ceasefire is all I need to vote for the Dem candidate” immediately moved their goalposts once it happened, because Palestinian genocide was never the actual issue. They don’t give a single fuck about more deaths or less deaths. They just want to play purity politics, and people giving them asspats for doing so are encouraging this behavior.

But anyway, they didn’t do that, and the signs for this result were there when liberals, like the ones in this very thread, refused to abandon bullying as a strategy, and continued to think they could just gaslight people into thinking it would work after it didn’t work in 2016.

“Bullying is when you point out that a strategy is dogshit and senseless, and the more you do it, the more bullying it is.”

Like, I don’t know what the fuck to tell you. You voted for Harris, so you clearly understand on some level that abstaining is a dogshit answer, but you seem to be bending backwards to accommodate morons who’ve just willfully assisted in the deaths of tens of thousands of people, minimum, for no other reason than their own vanity.

maybe it’ll work in 2028 if we still have democracy then,

Wow, I really wish someone would’ve emphasized that losing democracy was a very real consequence of throwing the election, but apparently, that’s bullying.

Two 500mg tablets of acetaminophen please, thank you

-A Certified American

She was trying to win an election, but what’s your excuse?

Trying to avoid additional genocides here at home, and being rightfully upset that me, my friends, and loved ones are now in the sights of genocide in addition to the Palestinian genocide getting worse and Ukrainian genocide being enabled by Trump and a potential invasion of Taiwan by the CCP?

I guess that’s all small stuff compared to virtue signaling over Palestine. Gotta maintain that spiritual attitude towards politics.

Please scour through my post history and find where I’ve ever told anyone how they should vote.

I don’t know if you, personally, were banging the don’t vote drum, and expressed no opinion on whether YOU were or not. You have, however, jumped in on a comment mocking those who thought that abstaining was in any way a moral choice and saw fit to equate that to ‘mocking people for caring about genocide’.

“Dems ran a shit out-of-touch campaign, obviously this absolves all of us who were beating the ‘Don’t vote against the fascist’ drum as hard as we could.”

Believe it or not, and I understand this is quite unsettling for people with a simplistic view of the world, blame can be shared over multiple parties. Yes, really!

“We did it, Patrick! We saved Palestine!”

Easy as in simple, not easy as in likely or without cost.

The easy solution is to show that nukes are not protection against all conventional intervention. We should have given Zelenskyy a no-fly zone back when he asked for one.

It’s a delicate process, not easy to simply produce a bunch of nuclear weapons. Iran is at the point where they could have a few inside of a year anytime they actually want to trigger that particular international crisis.

Fuck it. If nukes are an excuse to prevent all conventional intervention, then nukes are a free pass to commit any crimes one wishes against non-nuclear powers. Put boots on the ground, or accept nuclear proliferation as a fact of life once countries realize that Ukraine proves that giving up nukes does not result in international support for sovereignty against revanchist states.

Same.