EU now mandates minimum of 5 years after the device is no longer on sale, so most likely 7 years total. This was a law that came into place just 1 week ago.
If you’re outside the EU it’s possible you won’t get that, but since the work is already done, you can likely count on it coming to other markets too.
I love this. I hope it comes to fruition some day.
In effect, yes.
5 years minimum software support after the device is no longer on the market.
Presumably this phone will be on the market for two years (in the EU at least).
Theoretically it could be less than 7 years if they only sold it for one year, of course, but even OEMs that release phones each year like clockwork tend to keep their previous model around for a while.
Haha, we can expect to see similar announcements from other manufacturers, because the EU now mandates software support for new devices.
Even if you’re outside of the EU, you’ll benefit from this. Since the OEMs have to do it anyway, they’ll likely push the updates to all markets and market it as if they’re being nice. Nope. They’re just complying with the law to the bare minimum.
Starting on the 20th of June 2025 (just two days!), the EU is enforcing a minimum of 5 years of updates on all smartphone/tablets sold after they are withdrawn from the market.
I.e. if a model is sold for 2 years, it must receive software support for 7 years. Just like this Nothing Phone.
Ultrasonic fingerprint sensors aren’t optical like the older under-screen ones. They don’t need to go bright to get a reading.
This will not blind you, it shouldn’t boost brightness at all.
People will bitch and moan and scream about this, but it’s free and Gnome doesn’t have the money to pay for it elsewhere.
It’s a real problem in the FOSS world. Users don’t want to pay, but they’re very happy to demand features or for the devs/organisation to be run in a certain way or for them to spend a shit load on XYZ, all in order to be ideologically pure.
This is the real world. Unfortunately given their lack of capital, Gnome needs freebies for this, and AWS was offering.
Starting on the 20th of June 2025, the EU is enforcing a minimum of 5 years of updates on all smartphone/tablets sold after they are withdrawn from the market.
I.e. if a model is sold for 2 years, it must receive software support for 7 years.
Even if you’re outside of the EU, you’ll benefit from this. Since the OEMs have to do it anyway, they’ll likely push the updates to all markets and market it as if they’re being nice.
So fucking dumb.
Everybody loved OnePlus’s alert slider. Nobody wants fucking Bixby button mk2
The point is Linux doesn’t solve the problem of megacorps
You still aren’t getting it.
That user already knows that Android is a heavily-forked version of Linux.
They already know that simply including some Linux code won’t magically make everything pure and wonderful, because they know that we already have Linux code in Android, and as they point out, it isn’t pure and wonderful.
it’s not like Linux on phones isn’t something that hasn’t been tried before. Projects like Ubuntu Touch and Firefox OS went nowhere.
Canonical didn’t even try with Ubuntu Touch, they never released anything to market. They did a Kickstarter that raked in more than anything else ever had, then they gave up.
I’m not certain Mozilla ever had real devices on the market either.
Besides, just because there have been two failures in the past doesn’t mean it’s impossible, or that the above user is wrong for desiring a proper Linux smartphone.
This is a very umm ackshully ☝️🤓 response.
Yes, Android is a (extremely heavily forked) Linux distribution. I’d be willing to bet money the above poster knows that too. You aren’t giving us new information here.
Furthermore, I think you knew what the above user’s point was: they want a more open phone and OS landscape where users are the boss of their own software and hardware, not tech giants.
Android is, in practical terms, its own thing, under Google’s control, bundles all kinds of Google crap, and can’t be replaced on most phones.
For Linux folks, it’s also available on FlatHub.
I’ve installed it on my steam deck and mapped the triggers to the left and right… uh… flappy things?
It works really well, and whenever people see it they’re like whoaaaaa I remember that!!
You don’t take on an Englishman at a football ground, they get all kinds of attack and defensive buffs
FINALLY
I’ve been looking forward to having a phone that’s more fragile and has a smaller battery, now I’ve found my guy. Thanks, Samsung.
I mean the galaxy note (2011) is still larger than plenty of phones now, so it doesn’t seem absurd. They were large and still are.
Note: 146.9mm x 83mm x 9.7mm (total volume 118,269mm³)
S25: 146.9mm x 70.5 x 7.2mm (total volume 74,566mm³)
The note is 59% larger. Yet people seem to look at the specs and say “it only has a 5.2” screen, it must be way smaller than the 6.2" screen phones of today"
I don’t get why reviewers conflate phone size and screen size. They aren’t the same.
Shit, let’s even compare it to the S25 Ultra (so the big one with a 6.9" screen).
The Note, despite the 5.2" screen size implying the phone is tiny in comparison, is 14% larger.
I’m tired of them quoting phone sizes by screen size as opposed to… well… the actual size of the phone.
Most people will hear 6.3" and think well my old phone was 4.3", clearly this is going to be vastly larger, completely forgetting that bezels these days are practically non-existent, whereas they used to take up half of the frontal area.
The original Galaxy Note had a 5.2" screen. By modern standards that’s puny. You’d assume that phone is absolutely tiny. Yet the Note is actually 14% larger than the current S25 Ultra with a 6.9" screen.
I’m sorry my lord, but you did say to add the white wizard… How was I to know there were two of them now??
TIL. You’d think Wikipedia would mention that! Unfortunate.
Unfortunately they cost a lot more or often don’t exist.
Plus, many of us are over-stressed and overworked as is. Going to 5 different places to buy your stuff was a lot easier back in the days when most things were in walking distance and only one person in the household had to work full time.
Not sure where you heard that, it’s headquartered in the UK, founded by a man from Yorkshire, and the current CEO is French.
That’s not even the full extent of his homophobia. He also made donations to a politician who said that AIDS is a great thing and will purge the world of gay people.
He also gave an interview about the whole being pressured to leave Mozilla thing, and said he was disappointed in how intolerant of his beliefs Mozilla staff were once they became public knowledge.
Yes, you read that right, a man who wanted to strip gay people of their rights cried about fucking intolerance towards him. Clown.