Meta: The company whose products you use when you absolutely, positively, don’t give a shit that they are the worst example of the worst nightmare of a consumer-hostile, privacy-invading, you-are-the-product, tech company. Yes, even worse than Microsoft.

I just got it yesterday and I agree!

Starting with my grandmother, I’ve been warned by the various bakers in my life for about 50 years that the various kinds of raw dough I have wheedled them into giving me or snuck off of their work area will give me a stomach ache or cause other issues. The most recent time I was warned in this way was surely less than 2 months ago.

So far so good, not a single problem, and I never pass up a chance to eat uncooked batter or dough. (Edited to add - if you haven’t tried basic homemade pie crust dough you haven’t lived. It’s not sweet, it’s just good.)

I am absolutely not saying the risk doesn’t exist, but the chance of it seems so minuscule (based on my anecdotal lifelong experience) that I only ever think about it when someone brings it up.

If I bought something prepackaged on a grocery store shelf, like from nabisco or whatever, that was undercooked, I wouldn’t eat it. From the kitchen of a relative or right from a bakery - has never given me pause.

It really is a fantastic album. It bummed me out to realize that the actual lyrics to Particle Man were not quite as meaningful to me as they were when I was mishearing them (lol) but yeah, great album, and honestly I like Lincoln just about as much.

This is how I’ve loved cookies for my entire life. I’m just happy they are easier to find now.

Edit: I’m sincerely amused that someone downvoted me for expressing my opinion on the kinds of cookies I like. I didn’t know this was a “ketchup on steak” level issue. 🤣

Not offended, just seemed like you thought I was excusing it. I’m not - just acknowledging it. 🙂

Unbridled corporate greed and the always relevant racism…

I’d say if you are appropriating a name from a fictional character for your child (which seems an odd choice, but which I think people should be able to do) it probably doesn’t matter much whether you take further creative liberties with it in that way.

Ah I see now, I misread what you were trying to communicate.

Dude, we’re on the same side in this, I just know what some battles have already been lost.

Hamas != Hisbollah

And they also don’t use pagers, or cell phones, or…?

Fair point!

Right there with you, but there’s no legal expectation of privacy in public, so it’s futile to complain about on that basis. Especially when ring doorbell cams are everywhere already. So the silver lining is a security robot won’t do this.

On the one hand, yes, on the other hand, it’s unlikely to brutalize or kill people for minor offenses, so maybe a win for a public space?

“Sometimes it’d be concerning for your car like someone could take it or something,” White said.

Wow, that couldn’t be a better sentence to highlight the layers of meaning in that comment.

It was in a batch specifically meant for Hezbollah operatives.

Yes, I understand that. And those Hezbollah operatives can lose their pagers, have them stolen, or they themselves can move randomly through populated areas with the hidden bomb strapped to their hip. You don’t think any of these “operatives” do anything but sit all day in a cartoon-style bad guy lair surrounded by other bad guys? They never go to buy groceries, or stop at a hospital or school, or have their devices stolen or lost in some random location? As I have said repeatedly, these devices were deployed in a manner that has absolutely no mechanism by which to control where they actually are and who else is in proximity to them when detonated.

Either we are just incapable of communicating effectively with each other, or you are being intentionally obtuse.

Again I say good day to you.

I did, it’s been in every comment of mine and in the rest of the sentence after the bit you cherrypicked.

I’m left with the conclusion what Israel did falls within the bounds of a legitimate military operation.

Once we hit this point, further discussion was likely pointless anyhow. Please let’s end this discussion here. Thank you!

“you seem not to (or have chosen not to) understand [the parallel?] the first two times

When I typed that I hadn’t spotted my own typo yet. Sorry.

If that’s the case, you’re making it so easy for me other people might think we’re in cahoots

I don’t care in the least if anyone thinks I’m in cahoots with anyone; it won’t change that I’m in cahoots with no one.

You can, of course, think differently.

Typo notwithstanding, it remains true that I do think differently, and if your argument boils down to what has actually been banned vs an understanding of how absolutely heartless and tragic it is to deploy a bunch of explosive pagers that will randomly move around a populated area because you want to kill a limited set of bad guys in that area, there is nothing left for us to discuss.

You can, of course, think differently.

And I do. It’s been one argument the entire time, and I don’t see how it’s worth reframing the parallel when you seem not to (or have chosen not to) understand it the first two times.

Good day.

Edite: I see I typed Hamas when I meant to type Hezbollah in one place. Will correct now. I admit that was potentially confusing.

The pagers were used by Hezbollah, not Hamas.

I realize that, I was drawing a parallel between the two circumstances.

And again - when you drop a bomb, you can credibly have made an attempt to ensure no one is in the vicinity who you don’t intend to bomb. (Not that israel seems to do this) - this is especially true with modern technology.

You cannot reasonably predict the path that a pager takes once it is shipped, no matter who it is intended for, not least because no one expects a pager to be the source of a deadly threat. You control who owns that “bomb” you have just sent into the world only until the moment it is unpacked and given to the first person who takes possession of it.