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That’s because the origin isn’t “autistic screeching”. It’s the screaming frog. The connection to “autistic screeching” was a later misassociation popularized on Reddit.
I wasn’t talking about you with my comment about jumping down each others throat.
A lot of people have no clue that the origin is “autistic screeching.”
This is just objectively wrong, and thus it’s not likely that this is the reason it means anything.
My only point was that interpretations vary, so getting bent out of shape and acting like your interpretation is the only interpretation is a shittt thing to do.
I’ve always read ‘reeee’ like a pig squeel, which I think fits and doesn’t put down any demographic, except pigs, and they don’t know any better which is why it works.
The response to “you are spewing slurs and being a jerk” is not “How dare you?!? How am I supposed to know everything?” . It is “oh shit, sorry”
And if the difference between someone spewing slurs and acting like an asshole is me coddling them and rubbing their tum tum while asking for them to pwease not use a slur? They are going to be an asshole anyway and are just looking for an excuse to continue being one.
That sounds fantastic, until you realize you’re all there because of your shared delusion that you individually know better and understand more than everyone around you. Then you turn on each other, and then hell is functioning as intended.
Ignoring the whole “being offended for people who likely don’t appreciate someone being offended on their behalf” part, how does one expect to gain acceptance of their ideas by being an absolute dickhead to them?
Even if you have the greatest idea of all time, telling someone to implement it and then calling them a piece of shit leaves people very disinclined to implement anything they’ve said. They’ll be stuck on ‘man that person was a real asshole. Fuck them and whatever bullshit they were talking about’
As for the part we’ve ignored, I honestly thought we were done with that whole thing? That we moved on to actually trying to help people rather than virtual signal about helping? FFS
If you actually want to help people, then have you considered donating to charities for those causes? If you’re low on funds, that’s fine, you can volunteer time to help out. The charity runners would really appreciate it and it would go so much farther than this faux moral outrage tactic.
It means alot more to me when a person who would actually get offended by something asks that people not say said offensive thing (in a personal setting, work is work) than a person who would not get offended.
For instance, I’m a Jew and I ask people not to call me white because I’m Jewish, not white. Seems reasonable a Jew asking people not do to a thing that’s offensive to Jews.
But if I were white and asked people “hey don’t call Jews white” well who the fuck am I to be asking that? I’m not a Jew (impacted person) nor have I identified myself to have any authority in the matter. I’m just a dude doing a thing.
To add to that we have the second problem. How the person went about it. They were an asshole in their request. You don’t win over hearts and minds by being a dick, no matter how much of a dick those hearts and minds were.
Said person decided to double down on being a dick leaving me entirely uninterested in enacting any changes they’ve requested. So from my perspective
the person is virtual signalling which is shown in the article I linked, has historically proven to not have a positive impact.
the person is being an asshole
Why should I care about their opinion?
Yours on the other hand, was in a respectful of upset manner and is coming from an impacted individual. You carry weight and you’ve been respectful in doing so.
I’m hopeful I’ve shown you the same respect in my response.
It’s the “…being a jerk” part that is, initially, unnecessary. If they aren’t informed, there is no intent. If they don’t respond well to the initial raw/basic info, that’s a different conversation.
The incredible irony of calling me out for using a ‘slur’ while every comment they make has the word ‘slut’ above it. Beautiful, thanks for pointing it out.
You’ve confused me. I think you’re confused also, I was the one who made the initial comment that they called out. It’s Bleeping Lobster all the way down. I don’t have an ‘alt account’ (though I have registered on Sopuli.xyz for those brief moments when .world is down)
Telling someone they are using a slur and they should do better is just straight up “fact”. Making mistakes is life. Learning from those mistakes and doing better is how you at least attempt to be a good person.
Again, if your issue that has led you to attempt to tone police me is that I told someone to do better: If they genuinely meant no offense (and the OP has made it clear they give zero shits about offending anyone…) then they say “oh shit, sorry”. Simple as that.
And if the only way to get someone to not use slurs and ableist language is to give them a hug and tell them they are a good person? Then clearly they are okay hurting others because somebody didn’t show them the proper deference. And… fuck 'em. They are bigots and bigots deserve no respect.
And it isn’t about “undoing” what people say (although, this is a message board and there is an edit button…). It is about saying “Shit, sorry” and resolving to do better.
For example: Apologies to all the Romani folk out there (and I think it is also used to refer to irish Travellers sometime?), but I and most kids would use the phrase “jipped” which is based on “gyped” which is short for “gypsies” which is a slur for those groups. Funny enough, a lot of us learned that was not cool from an episode of House MD. And we didn’t need to be told “You are good people and we love you but…” any more than we needed to be told that House is a great guy who is not at all racist even though he is being intentionally inflammatory so that Hot Doctor can pull a tick out a vagina or whatever was going on in that episode. It was “… wait, that is a slur? Oh shit. I better not use that anymore”
Yes. it is a challenge. People should do better. And you know what else is “antagonistic”? Using ableist language to insult large demographics for no apparent reason.
I am not “playing a game” at all. You just seem hellbent on tone policing because apparently the most important thing about confronting someone using ableist language is to make sure THEY feel good.
You fuck up? If it is minor, you take the slap on the wrist and learn from it. Optimally you apologize. That is not the end of the world.
But, much like “he changed his mind. HE IS A FLIP FLOPPER!!!” became the worst sin imaginable, so too has acknowledging fault of any form.
And just because someone is going to think they are clever: I do not acknowledge fault in telling people acting like bigots to do better. Because I want them to do better. And if I am rude to a bigot in the process? Good. Fuck 'em. I intend to make them feel like shit. If I succeed? Even better.
And if they were just acting like a bigot? Then they can learn to do better and this is a heads up that they should check themselves (… before they wreck themselves).
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That’s because the origin isn’t “autistic screeching”. It’s the screaming frog. The connection to “autistic screeching” was a later misassociation popularized on Reddit.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/reeeeeee
People should be encouraging each other to be better people, but jumping down a randoms throat in self-righteous vigor is fucked up.
Reddit is like Adam… ruins everything
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I wasn’t talking about you with my comment about jumping down each others throat.
This is just objectively wrong, and thus it’s not likely that this is the reason it means anything.
My only point was that interpretations vary, so getting bent out of shape and acting like your interpretation is the only interpretation is a shittt thing to do.
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I’ve always read ‘reeee’ like a pig squeel, which I think fits and doesn’t put down any demographic, except pigs, and they don’t know any better which is why it works.
I can see below that the actual origin is a screaming frog, interesting.
Yeah that puzzle slut is just wrong. It’s making fun of people getting overly angry about something and isn’t punching down at any group whatsoever.
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You can do harm even if unintentional.
The response to “you are spewing slurs and being a jerk” is not “How dare you?!? How am I supposed to know everything?” . It is “oh shit, sorry”
And if the difference between someone spewing slurs and acting like an asshole is me coddling them and rubbing their tum tum while asking for them to pwease not use a slur? They are going to be an asshole anyway and are just looking for an excuse to continue being one.
So your default assumption is they are being assholes therefore you are justified in also being an asshole?
Have you heard of the road to hell? It’s paved with good intentions like your own.
If I end up in the hell full of people who flip off bigots and don’t kindly ask people to stop directing hate speech at people I care about?
That sounds awesome:? Being surrounded by a bunch of folk who know how to party, care about not hurting others, and don’t mind speaking up?
That sounds fantastic, until you realize you’re all there because of your shared delusion that you individually know better and understand more than everyone around you. Then you turn on each other, and then hell is functioning as intended.
Tbh that’s not even the issue I have.
Ignoring the whole “being offended for people who likely don’t appreciate someone being offended on their behalf” part, how does one expect to gain acceptance of their ideas by being an absolute dickhead to them?
Even if you have the greatest idea of all time, telling someone to implement it and then calling them a piece of shit leaves people very disinclined to implement anything they’ve said. They’ll be stuck on ‘man that person was a real asshole. Fuck them and whatever bullshit they were talking about’
As for the part we’ve ignored, I honestly thought we were done with that whole thing? That we moved on to actually trying to help people rather than virtual signal about helping? FFS
Let me ask you, have you actually met anyone differently abled who explicitly asked you “I wish you’d be offended on my behalf to random people?”
I’m kinda doubting you have mostly because the last couple of times I’ve seen virtual signalling like this, the groups involved found it demeaning, insulting and harmful. https://www.forbes.com/sites/susanharmeling/2023/01/16/virtue-signaling-on-race-relations-only-hurts-the-cause/
If you actually want to help people, then have you considered donating to charities for those causes? If you’re low on funds, that’s fine, you can volunteer time to help out. The charity runners would really appreciate it and it would go so much farther than this faux moral outrage tactic.
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It means alot more to me when a person who would actually get offended by something asks that people not say said offensive thing (in a personal setting, work is work) than a person who would not get offended.
For instance, I’m a Jew and I ask people not to call me white because I’m Jewish, not white. Seems reasonable a Jew asking people not do to a thing that’s offensive to Jews.
But if I were white and asked people “hey don’t call Jews white” well who the fuck am I to be asking that? I’m not a Jew (impacted person) nor have I identified myself to have any authority in the matter. I’m just a dude doing a thing.
To add to that we have the second problem. How the person went about it. They were an asshole in their request. You don’t win over hearts and minds by being a dick, no matter how much of a dick those hearts and minds were.
Said person decided to double down on being a dick leaving me entirely uninterested in enacting any changes they’ve requested. So from my perspective
Why should I care about their opinion?
Yours on the other hand, was in a respectful of upset manner and is coming from an impacted individual. You carry weight and you’ve been respectful in doing so.
I’m hopeful I’ve shown you the same respect in my response.
It’s the “…being a jerk” part that is, initially, unnecessary. If they aren’t informed, there is no intent. If they don’t respond well to the initial raw/basic info, that’s a different conversation.
Well said, user Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever
The incredible irony of calling me out for using a ‘slur’ while every comment they make has the word ‘slut’ above it. Beautiful, thanks for pointing it out.
Is this your alt-account?Edit: I think you meant to write “calling them out” instead of “calling me out.”Edit 2: Understood.
You’ve confused me. I think you’re confused also, I was the one who made the initial comment that they called out. It’s Bleeping Lobster all the way down. I don’t have an ‘alt account’ (though I have registered on Sopuli.xyz for those brief moments when .world is down)
I got it now. Sorry. Brainfart. Exactly what you said. “You’re using slurs! How dare you!!” - Sincerely, Puzzle_Sluts.
Except you are incorrect and trying to marginalize people who nobody else was trying to marginalize. :(
You acting like an authority is the issue here.
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Telling someone they are using a slur and they should do better is just straight up “fact”. Making mistakes is life. Learning from those mistakes and doing better is how you at least attempt to be a good person.
Again, if your issue that has led you to attempt to tone police me is that I told someone to do better: If they genuinely meant no offense (and the OP has made it clear they give zero shits about offending anyone…) then they say “oh shit, sorry”. Simple as that.
And if the only way to get someone to not use slurs and ableist language is to give them a hug and tell them they are a good person? Then clearly they are okay hurting others because somebody didn’t show them the proper deference. And… fuck 'em. They are bigots and bigots deserve no respect.
And it isn’t about “undoing” what people say (although, this is a message board and there is an edit button…). It is about saying “Shit, sorry” and resolving to do better.
For example: Apologies to all the Romani folk out there (and I think it is also used to refer to irish Travellers sometime?), but I and most kids would use the phrase “jipped” which is based on “gyped” which is short for “gypsies” which is a slur for those groups. Funny enough, a lot of us learned that was not cool from an episode of House MD. And we didn’t need to be told “You are good people and we love you but…” any more than we needed to be told that House is a great guy who is not at all racist even though he is being intentionally inflammatory so that Hot Doctor can pull a tick out a vagina or whatever was going on in that episode. It was “… wait, that is a slur? Oh shit. I better not use that anymore”
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Yes. it is a challenge. People should do better. And you know what else is “antagonistic”? Using ableist language to insult large demographics for no apparent reason.
I am not “playing a game” at all. You just seem hellbent on tone policing because apparently the most important thing about confronting someone using ableist language is to make sure THEY feel good.
You fuck up? If it is minor, you take the slap on the wrist and learn from it. Optimally you apologize. That is not the end of the world.
But, much like “he changed his mind. HE IS A FLIP FLOPPER!!!” became the worst sin imaginable, so too has acknowledging fault of any form.
And just because someone is going to think they are clever: I do not acknowledge fault in telling people acting like bigots to do better. Because I want them to do better. And if I am rude to a bigot in the process? Good. Fuck 'em. I intend to make them feel like shit. If I succeed? Even better.
And if they were just acting like a bigot? Then they can learn to do better and this is a heads up that they should check themselves (… before they wreck themselves).