• @Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world
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    Telling someone they are using a slur and they should do better is just straight up “fact”. Making mistakes is life. Learning from those mistakes and doing better is how you at least attempt to be a good person.

    Again, if your issue that has led you to attempt to tone police me is that I told someone to do better: If they genuinely meant no offense (and the OP has made it clear they give zero shits about offending anyone…) then they say “oh shit, sorry”. Simple as that.

    And if the only way to get someone to not use slurs and ableist language is to give them a hug and tell them they are a good person? Then clearly they are okay hurting others because somebody didn’t show them the proper deference. And… fuck 'em. They are bigots and bigots deserve no respect.

    And it isn’t about “undoing” what people say (although, this is a message board and there is an edit button…). It is about saying “Shit, sorry” and resolving to do better.

    For example: Apologies to all the Romani folk out there (and I think it is also used to refer to irish Travellers sometime?), but I and most kids would use the phrase “jipped” which is based on “gyped” which is short for “gypsies” which is a slur for those groups. Funny enough, a lot of us learned that was not cool from an episode of House MD. And we didn’t need to be told “You are good people and we love you but…” any more than we needed to be told that House is a great guy who is not at all racist even though he is being intentionally inflammatory so that Hot Doctor can pull a tick out a vagina or whatever was going on in that episode. It was “… wait, that is a slur? Oh shit. I better not use that anymore”

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        11 months ago

        Yes. it is a challenge. People should do better. And you know what else is “antagonistic”? Using ableist language to insult large demographics for no apparent reason.

        I am not “playing a game” at all. You just seem hellbent on tone policing because apparently the most important thing about confronting someone using ableist language is to make sure THEY feel good.

        You fuck up? If it is minor, you take the slap on the wrist and learn from it. Optimally you apologize. That is not the end of the world.

        But, much like “he changed his mind. HE IS A FLIP FLOPPER!!!” became the worst sin imaginable, so too has acknowledging fault of any form.


        And just because someone is going to think they are clever: I do not acknowledge fault in telling people acting like bigots to do better. Because I want them to do better. And if I am rude to a bigot in the process? Good. Fuck 'em. I intend to make them feel like shit. If I succeed? Even better.

        And if they were just acting like a bigot? Then they can learn to do better and this is a heads up that they should check themselves (… before they wreck themselves).