I’ve definitely shared this concept or observation or whatever you want to call it before, but recent events have made me think of it again. I should clarify first that what I base this train of thought on isn’t entirely something that clicks for me, something I might not get into expressing, but it definitely makes you or at least me wonder why the implications in the train of thought aren’t considered, at least outside my occupation (since I’m in an occupation designed to work around the otherwise neglect of the concept), and I thought of running this by.

Back in the old days, it was common for business people to pay their workers more honestly, as in based on what they thought the worker seemed to deserve. Often the workers would seem underwhelmed. Organized criminals would then step in and say “you’ll get more out of us” and so that part of society grew. For some reason, the first thing within the mind of the people in charge, trying to assess everything, was “let’s invent this thing, we might call it the minimum wage”. Alrighty. So this side thinking, what do we think of it? Something happened, right?

So here is where the train of thought works into the picture. Matters of monetization are just one arena up the sleeve of bad actors. A lot of people feel abruptly socially isolated. When this happens, instinct is often to seek out companions. Social life might be dead or people might be avoidant. Someone I know is in such a situation. Along comes what might be called a bad actor. To them, they might see a potential extension of themselves with freedom of minimal effort. And voila, someone new joins the “bad crowd” or “dysfunctional crowd”.

Watching this unfold myself, I think to myself. Places have a “minimum reference point” for the topic of exchange/payment/whatever the word is, so then what does the non-thinking come from to apply this thought to the whole isolation thing mentioned? Anyone here have people they know who were absorbed into a bad part of society when everything seemed dead and thought “well, it’s not like anyone else was going to give them what they need”?

      • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.eeOPMEnglish
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        5 months ago

        Suppose I was writing an equation. If it was incalculable, it would be due to having structurally written a part wrong. If not, anyone mathematical enough could solve it. If there is ambiguity, something can be rearranged until someone can triangulate what is being communicated based on what they all interpretationally have in common. That’s why I ask. In terms of structure/expression, only one would be an issue and I actively ask about it.

          • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.eeOPMEnglish
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            5 months ago

            In line with a part of what I was saying, is it always one’s fault if another person doesn’t understand? This isn’t what one would call “deflecting”, success comes from both ends (one could yell into the void, but is there anyone there who may hear or is it all deaf). I would not blame someone else if this was an issue. For a third time, it’s why I may say to give specific pointers (which nobody has done yet), which would also allow one to know what to dissect, not that two of the five things you mentioned aren’t opposites, as well as range between objective (correctness/completeness when it comes to that) and relative. People ran the whole thing by an algorithm which didn’t have this issue, but then people said they had the same problem from the algorithm, so I’d take a guess and say maybe it’s not just a me thing. Also keep in mind (and this addresses several parts of your dissection), but the first part of all of this is also contextually a recap of a previous inquiry, and much ambiguity comes from the efforts to contrast the two societal concepts a second time (also, does one really need to be ultra specific every time they use an adage like “the old days”?)