I just read this point in a comment and wanted to bring it to the spotlight.
Meta has practically unlimited resources. They will make access to the fediverse fast with their top tier servers.
As per my understanding this will make small instances less desirable to the common user. And the effects will be:
- Meta can and will unethically defedrate from instances which are a theat to them. Which the majority of the population won’t care about, again making the small instances obsolete.
- When majority of the content is on the Meta servers they can and will provide fast access to it and unethically slow down access to the content from outside instances. This will be noticeable but cannot be proved, and in the end the common users just won’t care. They will use Threads because its faster.
This is just what i could think of, there are many more ways to be evil. Meta has the best engineers in the world who will figure out more discrete and impactful ways to harm the small instances.
Privacy: I know they can scrape data from the fediverse right now. That’s not a problem. The problem comes when they launch their own Android / iOS app and collect data about my search and what kind of Camel milk I like.
My thoughts: I think building our own userbase is better than federating with an evil corp. with unlimited resources and talent which they will use to destroy the federation just to get a few users.
I hope this post reaches the instance admins. The Cons outweigh the Pros in this case.
We couldn’t get the people to use Signal. This is our chance to make a change.
No. I am here to “create a digital commons”. I have felt that has been something that has been lost since the usenet days and even checked out lemmy a year or so ago and thought it wasn’t up to snuff.
The thing is: I don’t care if that is lemmy, mastodon, or even the fediverse as we know it. I care that it is something that can handle (distributed) load and provide the UI/UX needs to actually be something people would use.
Which is exactly my point. In almost every case of Evil Microsoft Killing Everything, it mostly just boils down to people learning what they do and don’t want over time. And, in a lot of those cases, actual open source solutions eventually emerged out of the wreckage of the failed projects.
You accuse me of “advocating for exactly the same conditions” when, if anything, that is on you. Because so many people refuse to leave twitter because “nothing else is better” or “I am too stupid to understand a domain name” and so forth. Just like they don’t want to leave reddit because not-reddit is not-reddit. That applies to The Fediverse too. Maybe, while stress testing it, we find out there are serious fundamental issues. We can either insist everyone needs to stick with Mastodon/Lemmy/whatever or we can look at forks and even new projects with similar goals.
And, eventually, those new projects will actually achieve the goal. Or we’ll all be dead from nuclear winter. One or the other.
Lmao, this “individual responsibility” shit is just you regurgitating Ayn Rand/Thatcherite bollocks. “Oh the corporations became the overseers of everything simply because they made a better product” is such an utterly house-broken and naive mindset. “Ohhh you just need to make a better product and then you’ll magically beat them, wink wink”.
It is extremely rare that I see someone this housebroken.
No. You need both opportunity and a better product.
Reddit shitting the bed was the opportunity that led to lemmy exploding in popularity. Time will tell if it is a better product. I am pretty open that I think lemmy will be a flash in the pan this time, but we might have something “take over” when the actual IPO happens.
Twitter shitting the bed was the opportunity for mastodon and cohost and the like to explode in popularity. Mastodon did, to a much lesser extent, but there was a minor hiccup on sign up that led most users to refusing to try it (and, odds are, a lot of that was propaganda from facebook et al to buy time). So it likely won’t take over. And cohost… is a text heavy version of tumblr. In 2023. I like it but…
But hey, got it. Anyone out there who doesn’t care about their experience at all and only care if something has the right branding makes them a right wing lunatic in your eyes. Good luck with that.
“Opportunity” lmao. Someone works in tech, and can’t stop themselves using corporate office speak in an anti-corporate conversation. You sound like you’re giving a whiteboard presentation.