Not knowing how anything works, being scared by errors that you don’t know how to get around or deal with, not knowing alternatives for your former favourite apps to do things quickly, wondering if you get the peripherals you currently own to run?
I mean, that’s how you start learning stuff - not knowing how something works
Being scared by errors that you don’t know how to get around or deal with
Isn’t that the case for every OS in existence? When something breaks, you don’t know how to deal with it. Enter google/ddg/whatever
Not knowing alternatives for your former favourite apps to do things quickly
See point 1 - and yet there are Linux apps that let you do things quicker than Windows stuff. I can’t imagine myself at this point having to use frigging photoshop to crop or add a border to a image when you could do that with a ´magick -crop´
Wondering if you get the peripherals you currently own to run?
Wasn’t that the whole point of live images? Not that they will charge you for downloading them. And hardware support is infinitely better today than back in the day. Just look at what the folks at asahi did - that’s nothing short of incredible
Tossing Gentoo onto an old Pentium III box, typing emerge world and coming back four hours later to see if it’s done was awesome.
And no, it wasn’t done compiling KDE yet.
But I definitely wouldn’t want to experiment with Linux on my only PC with no way to look things up if I break networking (or the whole system). Thankfully, this is no longer an issue in the age of smartphones.
Yes, but Windows is normal and therefore all of its myriad problems are just part-and-parcel with using a computer and can be ignored. Linux is not normal, though, so the slightest roadbump is an instant deal-breaker.
There’s also the fact that if you have modern hardware, you’ll find that half the features that you paid for don’t work properly in Linux (or at all). It’s a great OS to keep an old PC alive, though.
That’s less of an issue these days. In the 2000s it was like that, especially since people used all sorts of add-in cards. These days a lot of those cards have merged with the mainboard (networking, sound, USB) or have fallen out of fashion (e.g. TV tuners).
The mainboard stuff is generally well-supported. The days of the Winmodem are over. The big issues these days are special-purpose hardware (which generally doesn’t work with later Windows versions either), laptops, and Nvidia GPUs (which are getting better).
I said what I said because it’s relevant today. I literally had this issue last month with modern hardware, when I couldn’t get HDR working properly in KDE 6 Plasma (colors are washed-out and have no contrast when HDR is on). And features from my GPU are completely missing, like SDR-to-HDR conversion, AI upscaling, and the entire 3D Settings Page (the one where you can change settings not available in-game). When I ask people for help with restoring these features/settings, no one has any idea what I’m talking about. So I gave up and went back to Windows.
Ah, the old Nvidia problem. It’s true that Nvidia’s Linux driver isn’t very good (although I don’t think their Windows driver is very good either, it just has more features).
The 3D Settings page is specific to the Nvidia Windows driver. Even an AMD user might’ve been slightly confused (although AMD ships comparable features, just located elsewhere under a different name). This is indeed something the Linux drivers plain don’t have in that form, although I can’t remember the last time I felt a need to really muck around in there.
Admittedly, overriding game rendering behavior might not even always be possible, seeing that DirectX games are run through a translation layer before the GPU gets to do anything.
I wasn’t able to find solid info for AI upscaling even on Windows, mainly because of the terrible name of that feature and because Nvidia offers both “AI Upscaling” and “Nvidia Image Scaling” and I have no idea if those are the same thing. The former seems to be specific to the Nvidia SHIELD.
Unless you’re talking about DLSS, which is supported.
The HDR one is odd but might again be related to the Nvidia driver not being very good. This should improve in the future but they are admittedly trailing behind.
I wonder if he even has the proprietary driver installed using the package manager of his distro and has chosen the right packages for cuda and vulcan or if he just manually installed the proprietary driver via deb file and has still the nouveau/reverse engineered version of cuda and vulcan installed 🤔
Oh to be a young lad experiencing linux for the first time again
Am enjoying it more than ever almost 20 years in.
For higher throughput in middle age, I recommend Edge-ing every so often, and then going back to a real browser.
I’m doing that rn. Not the first time as I’ve used it before, but this time as a daily driver.
Not knowing how anything works, being scared by errors that you don’t know how to get around or deal with, not knowing alternatives for your former favourite apps to do things quickly, wondering if you get the peripherals you currently own to run?
naah thanks mate, hard pass.
I mean, that’s how you start learning stuff - not knowing how something works
Isn’t that the case for every OS in existence? When something breaks, you don’t know how to deal with it. Enter google/ddg/whatever
See point 1 - and yet there are Linux apps that let you do things quicker than Windows stuff. I can’t imagine myself at this point having to use frigging photoshop to crop or add a border to a image when you could do that with a ´magick -crop´
Wasn’t that the whole point of live images? Not that they will charge you for downloading them. And hardware support is infinitely better today than back in the day. Just look at what the folks at asahi did - that’s nothing short of incredible
Tossing Gentoo onto an old Pentium III box, typing
emerge worldand coming back four hours later to see if it’s done was awesome.And no, it wasn’t done compiling KDE yet.
But I definitely wouldn’t want to experiment with Linux on my only PC with no way to look things up if I break networking (or the whole system). Thankfully, this is no longer an issue in the age of smartphones.
I feel like this supporting Windows servers and navigating Win 11/12 clients at work these days.
Yes, but Windows is normal and therefore all of its myriad problems are just part-and-parcel with using a computer and can be ignored. Linux is not normal, though, so the slightest roadbump is an instant deal-breaker.
There’s also the fact that if you have modern hardware, you’ll find that half the features that you paid for don’t work properly in Linux (or at all). It’s a great OS to keep an old PC alive, though.
That’s less of an issue these days. In the 2000s it was like that, especially since people used all sorts of add-in cards. These days a lot of those cards have merged with the mainboard (networking, sound, USB) or have fallen out of fashion (e.g. TV tuners).
The mainboard stuff is generally well-supported. The days of the Winmodem are over. The big issues these days are special-purpose hardware (which generally doesn’t work with later Windows versions either), laptops, and Nvidia GPUs (which are getting better).
I said what I said because it’s relevant today. I literally had this issue last month with modern hardware, when I couldn’t get HDR working properly in KDE 6 Plasma (colors are washed-out and have no contrast when HDR is on). And features from my GPU are completely missing, like SDR-to-HDR conversion, AI upscaling, and the entire 3D Settings Page (the one where you can change settings not available in-game). When I ask people for help with restoring these features/settings, no one has any idea what I’m talking about. So I gave up and went back to Windows.
Ah, the old Nvidia problem. It’s true that Nvidia’s Linux driver isn’t very good (although I don’t think their Windows driver is very good either, it just has more features).
The 3D Settings page is specific to the Nvidia Windows driver. Even an AMD user might’ve been slightly confused (although AMD ships comparable features, just located elsewhere under a different name). This is indeed something the Linux drivers plain don’t have in that form, although I can’t remember the last time I felt a need to really muck around in there.
Admittedly, overriding game rendering behavior might not even always be possible, seeing that DirectX games are run through a translation layer before the GPU gets to do anything.
I wasn’t able to find solid info for AI upscaling even on Windows, mainly because of the terrible name of that feature and because Nvidia offers both “AI Upscaling” and “Nvidia Image Scaling” and I have no idea if those are the same thing. The former seems to be specific to the Nvidia SHIELD.
Unless you’re talking about DLSS, which is supported.
The HDR one is odd but might again be related to the Nvidia driver not being very good. This should improve in the future but they are admittedly trailing behind.
I wonder if he even has the proprietary driver installed using the package manager of his distro and has chosen the right packages for cuda and vulcan or if he just manually installed the proprietary driver via deb file and has still the nouveau/reverse engineered version of cuda and vulcan installed 🤔