Take a guess.

  • POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.comEnglish
    362·
    12 days ago

    I’m guessing roughly 1 a day.

    I want to add, it’s not shocking. It is impossible to afford any kind of real mental health care. $50 sessions for a therapist are only worth their weight in gold; only if you can afford it.

    If you or your child needed therapy you are looking at ~7 hours of minimum wage once a week in order to afford it assuming you have insurance.

    We don’t take mental health seriously in the United States.

      • ZoDoneRightNow@kbin.earth
        332·
        12 days ago

        Actually, @POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com is closer. There have been 323 in the US this year which makes it 0.93 school shootings per day or 1.79 school shootings per school day in the US (assuming 180 school days a year)

          • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
            112·
            12 days ago

            They’re running with different definitions, is all. Given every school shooting is highly preventable, either number is valid.

            • stevestevesteve@lemmy.world
              11·
              11 days ago

              Unlike other data sources, this information includes gang shootings, domestic violence, shootings at sports games and afterhours school events, suicides, fights that escalate into shootings, and accidents.

              Using this wide definition is clearly muddying the waters of what is colloquially known as a school shooting. Those words make people think of uvalde and Columbine, indiscriminately shooting many of the kids. Survives, accidents, etc are MUCH different and implying they’re the same is actively harming genuine discourse on the topic.

              • Aaron@lemmy.nz
                3·
                11 days ago

                Exactly my thoughts. 80+ is already a horrific number, it’s not going to make people more likely to act to artificially balloon the number 3x. There could be 1000 school shootings in one year and I doubt the US people or Govt would do a thing. They actively choose this every day.

    • cheese_greater@lemmy.world
      10·
      12 days ago

      Even with therapy, its often an issue with the home environment that cant be mental.health.care’d away. Often theres a raging psycho creating a shit environment and making everyone crave for them to just fuck off and let them live and thats often exactly what everyone needs

      Psychos dont tend to pursue non-flattering diagnoses and admitting their imperfections or straight-up schemings

    • fibojoly@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      11 days ago

      Well, Israel and Russia are trying to claim some room in that space, but yeah, it’s still probably “most of them”.

  • Che Banana@beehaw.org
    216·
    12 days ago

    Part of the reason we left the US. Our city had a terrorist attack (by a Muslim so instead of a mass office shooting it was deemed such), we had an acquaintance who was killed in the Las Vegas concert shooting, and our kids should was locked down 9 times that year for fear of gun violence.

    It’s Koo Koo land.

    • ReadMoreBooks@lemmy.zipEnglish
      8·
      11 days ago

      It’s quite difficult to emigrate unless one has significant fiscal privilege or is already politically and culturally connected to another country.

      If you’re willing then please share why you chose where and how you were able to effect it.

      • Aaron@lemmy.nz
        4·
        11 days ago

        Not the person you’re responding to but I did the same thing for in part the same reasons.

        We had significant fiscal privilege in that we were old enough and willing to go into debt enough early in our lives to purchase a house before things got stupid, and each time we moved we sold the house for a profit. We are renting again in our new country (New Zealand) until we build back up and get at least permanent residency (can’t buy a house here unless you’re a PR). Buying a home was the most stressful and most impactful thing financially, but that’s not feasible now for most people.

        We got lucky enough, and purposefully saved for escape for 10 years by living with things that weren’t comfortable (concrete floors for years rather than replace water damage, going above and beyond to keep electricity and gas prices low even at the cost of comfort, working too much to put money into savings and neglecting family, no eating out and limiting grocery budget for last two years, pulling out ALL investments like 401k to make the final push and starting from scratch in our new home, etc.).

        I can tell you it was all worth it. Live below your means (while increasing your means incrementally), beans and rice rather than packaged foods (balanced with how much your time is worth), make every sacrifice with a clear goal in mind. Like I said, it takes years, and you’re operating at a disadvantage just because we did this starting 12-13 years ago when prices were significantly different, and average wages haven’t compensated. We have kids, so the other benefits were things like the child tax credit increase in 2021, which gave us unexpected increases.

        I’ve seen people do all this just to have to go back to the US because they didn’t scope out their landing enough: make sure you know how much you need to survive in your new country, know the cost of visas, limits on what you can earn in your job, know what jobs you can even fill based on visa and qualification restrictions… and then plan for having 5-10% more in total liquidity than you think you need. Things change, accidents happen… in our case our kid had to have emergency surgery the week before our flight, that same day our car died so we couldn’t sell it for as much as we wanted, and a year after arriving they increased the cost of visa renewal by over 100%. Luckily we had planned for things going haywire so we were still able to escape.

        It’s not easy. I wish you all the luck in the world. Sorry for the novel and basically saying “be born earlier and get lucky” 👀

    • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
      71·
      11 days ago

      Wow…just wow. But other countries have it rough too. In the last 50yrs I witnessed more than 2 power outages that took over 30mins, close to an hour to fix. We’re not perfect either 😁

      • Che Banana@beehaw.org
        3·
        11 days ago

        I mean, I get it. A drunk guy has been stealing our Christmas ornaments one at a time off our front store window…

        …the fear is palpable

        • Mr_Blott@feddit.uk
          2·
          10 days ago

          Just the other day someone left a wine glass on a wall near my house

          The hedonism is out of control

          • Che Banana@beehaw.org
            3·
            10 days ago

            What’s that? I can’t hear you. I think I’ll go get my hearing checked with my socialized medicine and not go bankrupt.

            • Mr_Blott@feddit.uk
              2·
              9 days ago

              Sorry for the delay in replying. I genuinely injured my thumb 😂

              After the x-ray, the echograph then being referred to a specialist all in one day, I truly don’t know how I’ll recover from the €55 bill

              Oh wait, I just did

      • Professorozone@lemmy.world
        2·
        11 days ago

        That’s not the solution. We need more guns. Since there are more guns than people in the US, I would guess the shootings would end when we have 2/person. Or maybe more powerful guns or twice as many cops. I’m really not an expert on this.

  • ReadMoreBooks@lemmy.zipEnglish
    103·
    11 days ago

    I think I hear about a school shooting about once every two or three months. And, I believe underreporting at a national level paired with myself not having time to keep up means that I hear about roughly one in every hundred shootings.

    Typically there’s about 180 days of school per year.

    Crunching some vague math, my guess seems preposterous: ~340 school shootings in 2024. That’s almost two per day. But, the more I thought about it the less preposterous it seemed.

    TL;DR - My guess is a seemingly preposterous 340 school shootings in 2024, or almost 2 per school day.