• Magnetic_dud@discuss.tchncs.de
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    5 days ago

    For me an os needs to do basic stuff by default, not by adding a billion 3rd party apps that inevitably break the next os update because they were using undocumented apis

    Clipboard history, window snapping, showing a separate icon for every instance of a window (same app in 3 windows makes 3 icons on the taskbar), preview what that window is by hovering that.

    Sure, you can do that with (mostly paid) third party apps, but I don’t like wasting 3 days on setting an operating system in an usable state

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      5 days ago

      For me an os needs to do basic stuff by default, not by adding a billion 3rd party apps that inevitably break the next os update because they were using undocumented apis

      So you make up a strawman

      Sure, you can do that with (mostly paid) third party apps, but I don’t like wasting 3 days on setting an operating system in an usable state

      And then add another strawman onto it, in order to make your argument make any sense. None of the programs I listed are paid, they’re all open source, and it’s just as normal as doing any of the apt installs you have to do on Linux.

      Setting up my Mac is literally as simple as running dot from my dotfiles, which sets up every Mac setting, including things like making hidden files visible by default, hiding the Mac Dock by default, and more. On the other hand dealing with windows setup is a pain in the ass.

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        4 days ago

        Well for me it’s the opposite. I set once my settings with the domain group policy a decade ago and in every single windows PC that I own I have the perfect settings from the out of the box experience as soon as the first login

        And no need to set 30 key remaps with karabiner

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          I only have one key remapped with karabiner, and it’s transferable with a single JSON file so /shrug, sounds like maybe you just don’t understand Mac as well as you think you do. And I wasn’t just talking about system settings, like through group policy, I’m talking about anything that can be installed with a package manager. Yeah windows has scoop and winget, but they’re a pale imitation of brew, apt, yum, etc.

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            3 days ago

            Most keyboard shortcuts are illogical (=differ too much from Linux/Windows) and too often require 3+ keys

            Of course if you’re used to “Ctrl+shift+command+3” to do a screenshot instead of just pressing the dedicated button on the keyboard and feel it natural, this doesn’t apply to you

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              3 days ago

              Windows shortcut is win shift s to take an equivalent of Mac (print screen is not the same thing). But to be clear you’re not really talking about specifics, you’re generalizing. On windows you get a specific list of shortcuts that are only possible with the windows key (and alt if you need to type special characters). And that list is exceedingly small. You need to use something like autohotkey to get others, and I’m not talking about for remapping. I’m talking about simple stuff like “toggle dock hiding on/off” or “adjust the screen brightness” (literally impossible on windows to change this without an external program). On Mac you have hundreds just to start with and then if you want you can jump into AppleScript or Automator which is built in. And if that doesn’t cover it, you use karabiner then. If you don’t like using multiple keys then map caps lock to cmd shift and then you’ve got an even shorter keyboard shortcut than windows.

              You can believe that the defaults are illogical, but you can literally customize any of the default keyboard shortcuts on Mac, while that just isn’t true about windows. And on top of that you have shortcuts available that just aren’t there on windows (I literally chose the first two I saw in the Mac settings and then verified that they weren’t possible on Windows, I’m sure most of them aren’t even possible on windows without an external program).