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cm0002@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 4 months ago

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cm0002@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 4 months ago
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  • nyamlae@lemmy.world
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    Ah yes, the USSR, a state which considered homosexuality to be a mental disorder and a sign of fascism, and then subsequently criminalized it, arrested queer people, and sentenced them to years in labour camps.

    People oppose communism because we don’t trust authoritarians to make good decisions, and when they inevitably make bad decisions, the effects are disastrous and widespread due to how centralized the system is.

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      It’s unrelated to Ussr.
      Many countries criminalized it and still do including US until very very recent times.

      Nothing to do with communism vs capitalism.

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        Tankie, you could discredit the USSR for not being accepting and still be a good faith communist but nevermind

        • humble peat digger@lemm.eeBanned
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          I don’t really care.
          I think ussr had a lot of unique positive things.

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            Like putting Jews and Red Army POWs let out of Nazi camps in gulags. Very positive.

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              Like putting Jews and Red Army POWs let out of Nazi camps in gulags. Very positive.

              that’s not a real thing.
              you wouldn’t be able to find an example of systematic jews transfers to gulags - search if u wanna.
              kidding me - many people in ussr leadership were jews

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                you wouldn’t be able to find an example of systematic jews transfers to gulags - search if u wanna.

                Ok:

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exile_of_Jews_in_the_Soviet_interior_during_World_War_II

                https://www.jewishhistory.org/jews-in-the-gulag-after-wwii/

                https://kennedy.byu.edu/jewish-life-and-anti-semitism-in-the-soviet-gulag-2024-02-14

                https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/C/bo246026242.html

                https://academic.oup.com/hgs/article-abstract/34/3/393/6020133

                https://ukrainianjewishencounter.org/en/ukrainian-jewish-political-prisoners-gulag-toward-solidarity-mutual-understanding-cooperation/

                Let me guess- those are all Jewish lies. Just like the Holocaust.

                I’m sure these survivors telling their stories are the biggest liars of all: https://www.jstor.org/stable/23531219

                Just can’t trust those shifty Jews, can ya?

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                  tbh i’m 100% confident if this even happened - it was on small scale and not an official ussr policy.

                  as in - if some polaks got arrested after 1939 - those were based on class and stance towards ussr. some of those surely were jewish. boohoo.

                  there is not a single official document u can find where jews would have been specifically ordered to be deported.

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                    You’re only “100% confident” because you didn’t bother reading those links, especially not the personal stories. Stalin made absolutely no secret of his hatred for Jews. And there’s a “Jewish Autonomous Oblast” in Siberia for a reason. Do you think those Jews wanted to live in the middle of nowhere in the freezing cold?

                    But I am looking forward to you doing what the other guy praising the USSR for having gulags did and say the Jews deserved it.

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            I get, you’re saying the benefits of communism are well worth the sacrifice of a few minorities. That’s an argument you can make, but who decides who the minority is? What if they decide that you’re the minority? Seems like that’s gonna be a fun little twist in your little utopia, won’t it?

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              the minority

              not sure what u talking about.
              there hasn’t been mass ethnic deportations after about ww2 - which I think we can all agree was a very special unique case.
              besides - supposed democracy of the time were putting peaceful japanese into concentration camps and segregating negros - so how are they better.

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