• gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 天前

    Those aren’t mutually exclusive, you’re not that stupid so why pretend?

    “There weren’t enough of us to sway the election” and “had more people worked with us we would have one” are the same statement: both point out that not enough people did the thing you’re so pissed about

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      3 天前

      “There weren’t enough of us to sway the election” and “had more people worked with us we would have one”

      “Had more people agreed with us, we would have had more people who agreed with us” is not anything but a statement of obvious, if wishful, fact, and is not what is being said; not in my summary nor in the arguments of the people I’m referring to. Nor does it make any sense as an argument, explanation, or point of any kind. Utterly vacuous.

      The argument being put forth, and I suspect you’re well-aware of this, is that if the Dems had taken up whatever position these protest-voters wanted, that would have convinced enough people to vote Dem who otherwise would not have done so.

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        that if the Dems had taken up whatever position these protest-voters wanted, that would have convinced enough people to vote Dem who otherwise would not have done so.

        Yes, that is your strawman of their arguments

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          Yes, that is your strawman of their arguments

          And your claim is that they were actually saying “If more people agreed with us, we would have more people who agreed with us.”

          Would you like to explain how that is, in context, anything resembling a salient point? Or is your argument that they were spewing empty phrases, and I was wrong to apply meaning to their words?