• Snapz@lemmy.worldOP
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    15 hours ago

    Who are “they” and who says that that is valid advice?

    “Separate the artist…” is fairly accepted by any decent people I know as a way for selfish people to forgive themselves the burden of minor personal sacrifices related to their own consumer activities. The long form is literally, “Yes, Michael Jackson did horrible things to that little boy’s butthole, Woody Allen molested his daughter and married his adopted child and Bill Cosby drugged and raped women for decades, but let’s go buy their movie/album!” - you likely wouldn’t say the long form through, would you? You would hide and obfuscate behind, “sepatate the artist…” So you don’t have to say the bad things out loud.

    Nobody with any integrity buys into “separate the artist…”

    Also, to your point about this post, again it’s a similarly lazy way to forgive yourself the burden of trying to stay aware of these things and making little changes to how you vote with your wallet. You can absolutely do something like go shop at Costco this week instead of target - as one performatively eliminated diversity programs at their company while one preserved them as a stand. That’s where your opinion falls apart because yes, you can likely find something to hate Costco as well (because they are all garbage companies, but there are shades, they aren’t all equal. You have to participate to function, but you can do the slightest amount of work to shop more consciously. But that is the work you are trying to forgive yourself of.

    The point isn’t perfection, but to do enough for this week and try again next week. Before you know it, you’re shopping more consciously wherever you go.

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      14 hours ago

      Separate the Art from the Artist is accepted by SANE people, who don’t have time to milk tirades so that they can play victim on the internet so that strangers think they are virtuous.

      There is not a thing you do, have, own, buy, or operate that isn’t part of slavery, human exploitation, etc in some way or another. You only do this because you want to virtue signal to others that you think “good thoughts” and so you can be praised for being brave.

      You’re not brave. You don’t make a difference. And nobody cares.

      If you eat any kind of meat, your an evil “carnist”. If you don’t adopt pets from the shelter, then you’re contributing to pet farming. If you don’t drink from a paper straw then you’re killing turtles.

      Everyone everywhere has some problem with someone’s something. You literally cannot avoid it all. Own a smartphone? Then you’re evil and deserve to die because you’re carrying an item that was made by slavery! Let me guess…you’re not gonna give up the smartphone…are you? Yeah - I didn’t think you would.

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        12 hours ago

        Nonsense. Most people who boycott products aren’t posting about it on the internet.

        And I don’t know why you assume that opposing one company means you have to oppose others. People are allowed to oppose PayPal but not give a crap about eating meat.

      • Snapz@lemmy.worldOP
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        12 hours ago

        You operate under the false premise that people think this is about binary choice, it’s not. The shades of gray matter here. Again, as I stated, perfection isn’t the goal, it is how much of an effort you make to consciously navigate the bullshit we are forced to live within, while also hopefully working to fix the larger broken systems somehow in your lifetime. Progress, not perfection.

        You very baldly read as extremely selfish and again, you performatively forgive yourself in public forums so you don’t have to try. You sound like a professional victim. Start listening to those rogue thoughts at night when you’re staring at the ceiling, the ones that tell you you might be completely full of shit, they are on to something…