cross-posted from: https://kbin.social/m/firefox@lemmy.ml/t/476611

What if we got to easily choose our web browser, and didn’t have to rely on complex operating system settings to change the pre-installed default?

Do you keep the default browser on your Linux distro, or do you change it? If yes, why?

  • Rexios@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    There is literally no way 98% of people even know what a browser is

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      1 year ago

      If you ever see a headline that says “x% of people believe/want/feel y”, it’s nonsense. You can manufacture a crooked methodology to get x% of people to say anything.

      “Can I have a minute of your time? There has been evidence that people who use alternative browsers are more likely to commit acts of terrorism and human trafficking. Would you be in favour of more support for alternative browsers, or would you rather have higher quality public schools?”

      And just like magic, you can now write a headline that only 2% of people want a browser choice screen.

    • Chewy@discuss.tchncs.deOP
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      1 year ago

      Yes, the percentage is high. Most people would be annoyed to have another selection screen in the setup process.

      But I do think I saw more people using non-Google search engines since Google was forced to provide a search engine selection screen in the setup process.

      • dyma@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        my gf’s mom ended up a firefox user because it had the cute fox logo, she didn’t even know what it was called

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        1 year ago

        To me it sounds like an idea most people would say is a good idea because people like choice on principle, but the vast majority of people will then just use Chrome anyway.

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          But at least they can decide for themselves, even if it’s just because of the logo. The friction to switch the browser after the fact is way too high, especially on mobile nearly all people use the default browser.

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      1 year ago

      The study is also about Android. But the main reason I crossposted here is because I was curious what the opinion of this community about browser screens in the setup process is.

      Our research involved 12,000 people in Germany, Spain and Poland setting up a highly realistic virtual Windows or Android device.

      https://research.mozilla.org/browser-competition/choicescreen/

      Edit: I believe that this study is also applicable to desktop Linux users, since those are generally more tech-savy.

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        1 year ago

        At least depending on the district, users can be sent directly to the store page.

        Windows, however, needs a choice screen.

    • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      If you are already using Linux, probably a pretty low percentage. Though I assume the older people who’s children or grandchildren changed the OS on their PC/laptop to a distro that tries to mimic windows would find it complex.

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    1 year ago

    Do you keep the default browser on your Linux distro, or do you change it?

    Void doesn’t come with a default. I just use xbps to download Firefox on a fresh install.

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    1 year ago

    I’ve been trying Librewolf as a Flatpak on my work machine lately and it’s going great! It’s really a no-BS Firefox + privacy settings by default; love it. But in general I keep the default Firefox that come with my distro.

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    1 year ago

    At work I use Ubuntu which comes with Firefox by default so yeah I use the default.

    At home with arch I have to download one anyway … so I use Firefox.

    There has been only a brief period since I first started using Firefox that I used another browser as my main (chrome/chromium back when Netflix only worked on it properly) When Firefox rolled out “quantum” I jumped back never regretted it. Still one of the only remaining browsers.

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    1 year ago

    I kept the default browser on my distro of choice but that was because firefox is my personal browser of choice anyways

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    1 year ago

    I change it, because my distro came with pale moon browser which looks like something from the early 2000s

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    1 year ago

    Firefox hardened with Betterfox, Chromium for some sites which are broken because of ad/fingerprint blocker, firefox itself.

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    1 year ago

    I usually install like 4 browsers, and keep a chromium one for a few tabs that for whatever reason are hostile to the others

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    1 year ago

    Better if Mozilla stop crying and unfuck their browser, instead of spending money on useless shit and offensive CEO paychecks and blaming eveyone but themselves for their failure.

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      1 year ago

      This is poorly worded, but I agree with the sentiment. Firefox feels like a skeleton crew with not much backbone to me. Remember when they dropped support for JXL because Chrome dropped support, even though everyone else supports JXL? I feel like Firefox falls behind Chrome in terms of feature parity, and supports features only if Chrome supports the feature. Firefox also ships with Pocket, perhaps for monetary reasons, but who knows.

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    1 year ago

    Isn’t that 98% OF a total of 3% market share, a market share that’s still on a steady decline

    So basically just under 3% of people (provided Mozilla’s data is accurate), which means…nothing cause ain’t noone listens to the tiny minority, as much as I would like it to be not the case