Probably Fairphone (from the Netherlands) and Shiftphone (from Germany), but that surely depends on how you define production.
Fairphone is great. I really can recommend it. It is a bit expensive at first and the specs are not something special, but mine seems to be almost indestructible. I dropped it like a 100 times and the screen is still fine. If it ever breaks I can replace it myself cheaply. I think in the long term, this makes it a lot better than many other phones. Also, a lot of the materials were sourced responsibly.
Do they force updates on users or can these be rejected completely?
Why would you reject updates?
Because I want to.
Not directed at you, just as a reference for anyone stumbling over this post: Don’t reject security updates. There is no reason and it leaves vulnerabilities unpatched. You risk a lot and gain nothing. Patch regularly.
The thing is that nearly every IT professional will tell you to always do security updates.This is not a situation where there are different opinions, it’s just a fact.
“I want to be left with security holes unpatched”
Apart from fairphone which was already recommended a bunch of times I used to have a bq phone, an Aquaris U Plus that served me well for years. Obviously it’s also not made in Europe since smartphone production is always unethical and you can’t publicly announce that you’re producing something with slave labor in Europe. But the company seems to have gone bankrupt anyway so that’s in the past…
Had a great time with bq - i’m actually typing this on my Aquaris X with lineage OS! Had the Aquaris X5 before that, it had some battery issue and I got the newer X under warranty. It’s a shame they went bankrupt, their customer service & communication was excellent.
There is also Gigaset who claim that their smartphones are “Made in Germany” but I am not entirely sure to what exactly this covers.
Based on the specs, seems it’s only assembled in Germany with exception of a few parts like the battery.
It also seems to use standard Android with Google Play though.
If it does, then Fairphone would be a better option, or a phone offering from Murena perhaps too since that comes with /e/os
Gigaset is manufacturing in Germany afaik, but it is a Chinese-owned company. The phone runs on Android or Ubuntu Touch.
You may consider to buy a Gigaset pre-installed with UT or VollaOS (an Android-compatible OS by Volla Phone) at https://volla.online/ (Volla uses Gigaset phones).
Feel free to crosspost to !buyeuropean@feddit.uk
Or !buyfromeu@feddit.org if you want to make sure they adhere to EU laws.Lol, never mind, that’s where you posted it in the first place. Nice to see that the community is already gaining traction. :P
The single mod of the community we are in is missing. !buyeuropean@feddit.uk has a lot of active mods, and more activity overall.
That might be, but it is not specific to the EU, and therefore not relevant to those of us looking for EU goods.
There is no rule in the sidebar stating that !buyfromeu@feddit.org is limited to the EU
European-made
European market
By that definition, is Norway included?
Fine, in that case i propose we make another community for those of us who want EU goods, so we don’t confuse them with european goods. Happy?
Not really. One community would be better than two, especially with how close they are.
The UK left the EU, but aren’t they still better allies than Trump-US at the moment? Is it better to get spend money in an iPhone or get a Nothing Phone? Switzerland is next door, even if one of the Proton board members acts suspiciously lately, wouldn’t you recommend people to use Proton rather than Gmail?
The /r/BuyfromEU subreddit allows European in the general terms, Switzerland, UK and Norway included. It seems more reasonable to use a similar definition.
I actually agree with you that, the EU/Europe destination doesn’t matter that much, but my pedantic side have to point out that “Europe” technically also include Belarus and a big chunk of Russia.
Fairphone. I’ve yet to try one myself, but I’ve seen a lot of good reviews
I only know one person in real life with a fp4 after 2.5 years or so.
She says it absolutely sucks, takes forever to load anything on mobile internet (apparently the antennas are horrible or something), android auto barely works, and she says it will probably end up being her least-long lasting phone because it is just becoming more unusable by the month.
I was ready to buy into a fp5 to replace my sony 5ii (partly because on the MKBHD picture test it scored just under the pixels for me personally and it actually has an SD card slot unlike pixels) until I heard that review. Especially because I use android auto regularly.
Then also on reddit, where people ask about fairphone experiences and it is not just advertisements like on Lemmy, every detailed review says it is software bugs galore and mediocre hardware. Allegedly fair phone developers don’t develop on fairphones so bugs are rarely noticed and take extremely long time to fix. Also I hear updates are extremely slow and late.
Again, I haven’t used one myself, but when reviews are in one of two categories:
- extremely vague “great phone no issues”
- Very detailed review of how buggy and slow to update or fix bugs it it is
I tend to believe the much more detailed review as I got burned on the HMD Nokia 7.1 that was the biggest piece of garbage I have ever used.
