I rarely play chess, but when I do it’s with the lichess app
Thanks for reminding me I have a chess subscription that was set to renew in June. I’ll keep playing on chess.com but they’re not getting my money.
My cancellation message was “buy european”
Lichess is also open source. They are transparent with their finances and have taken on a developer who is upgrading their app(s). I say plural as they are keeping the old one with minor fixes but building a new one from the ground up .
The new app can also let you play puzzles while offline and well as play a bot offline.
Major variants are supported like 960, triple chess, atomic, and antichess.
And I think they’re also big on not having any trackers on the site too.
Lately I’ve started using fediverse presence as an early indicator to decide whether I trust an organization or company. Proton leaving because they couldn’t stand the heat after coming out as terrible kinda proved my point. Mozilla shutting down their instance was a good red flag.
Anyway, here they are: @lichess@mastodon.online
Chess.com links Tiktok, X, Youtube, Twitch, Instagram, and Discord. Lichess links Mastodon, GitHub, Discord, Bluesky, Youtube and Twitch.
I have a really stupid question. I don’t play chess but how do you “detect” cheating from a good player?
Outside of the guy that had a butt plug, I’m confused on how you could know online whether someone is cheating or not.
You must do the procedure.
There are obvious patterns, like the time to make a move.
Additionally, chess engines make moves that don’t really make sense to humans because they are making considerations hundreds of moves out, so if a player, through multiple games, consistently makes moves that are the best or close to the best engine moves, but don’t really make sense, that pattern can be analyzed.
One fluke of a brilliant move that obviously doesn’t mean anything. But if you are consistently playing 1000 moves ahead, that’s obviously impossible.
Combine that with user reports to see what players to deeply analyze it can work well.
It helps to consider that computers are significantly better than humans at chess, so much so that they would say the best technical move is one that looks like a blunder to most players, including professionals.
Curious as well
Not a player either. My understanding is that there are a couple giveaways.
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AI play very differently than people.
The thinking* for AI is shortest term and it’s my understanding that it’s obvious to people that play.See below. -
It’s possible to look up optimal* moves based on the board state. I would imagine that they’ll keep an eye on your browser/system to keep an eye out for such tools.
It’s the opposite, chess engines think so long term, that moves that look stupid to humans can often be the best technical move.
Oooooohhh. Ok. Thank you.
Engines are slow in certain time controls and infinitely fast compared to classical. Gothamchess has beaten stockfish cheaters just by moving back and forth in a defensive posture causing cheaters to time out waiting for their move.
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Warning: it can be addictive (source: my brother is a chess nerd)
folks, if you play on lichess, do consider donating.
i could afford it for one month and i got this cool “wings” icon next to my handle. it felt good swaggering into tournaments with that by my name!
Kind of weird to include the name of one multiple times and not the other at all.
Lichess is mentioned in the left column but not in its own, funnily enough.
Well spotted
Lichess has a vastly superior puzzle engine, it takes moments from real games where the player have made a mistake, catalogues it, ranks it and you can even check out the real game if you want.
There are millions of high quality puzzles.
I like puzzles.
And you can download all the puzzle database if you want
My puzzle elo is 1600, my real elo 1300
Maybe i should stop playing blitz and play a long match where i have time to think about my Moves?
Nah to slow.
Good move posting this, Blaze ;)
We should have a meme from !anarchychess@sopuli.xyz showing Blaze boldly challenging chess.com
Why not ha ha
Isn’t lichess already the standard?
In the chess streamer world, they all play chess.com because they get paid too. And there are gamification features like novelty ‘bots’ and daily rewards.
Lichess is much more serious and is solely focused on the chess experience
Ahh, that laird makes sense
Not in all circles, unfortunately.
Chess.com also has a friendlier and more fun user interface.
Been a while since I played anywhere tbh
Not sure, seems like a chess.com is still quite popular, but I’m not an expert by any mean
Me either. Totally filthy casual lol.
But I don’t think I ever played a game on chess.com. Everyone I talked to that played, played on lichess
That’s how I got into it. Was semi-tutored by a nice random person from /r/chess who took me under their wing (not very well, I’m still shit) but it works so well.
Now my family all use it and we all have a bunch of long format games on the go at any given moment. The only downside is that app notifications aren’t always consistent. But the WebApp is great.
looks like the lichess UX was written by people who have no idea how to design UX
It takes a little getting use to for sure. There are some quirks as well. The mobile app is also only somewhat polished.
genuinely curious: what problems do you face on lichess’ ui?
i personally havent found anything in the lichess experience detrimental.