Summary

Canada is reconsidering its F-35 fighter jet purchase amid rising tensions with the Trump administration.

Defence Minister Bill Blair stated Canada is exploring alternatives to the $19-billion contract for 88 jets, suggesting Canada might accept the first 16 already paid for while sourcing remaining aircraft from European suppliers like Saab.

This follows Trump’s tariff threats and comments about “annexing Canada by economic force.”

The Swedish-built Saab Gripen, which finished second in the competition, offers assembly in Canada, thus avoiding dependence on U.S.-based maintenance.

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    11 小时前

    Idk about this.

    We wasted millions on jets that didn’t work before and got nothing in return. This could be another form of funneling money upwards.

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    22 小时前

    Shouldn’t even be up for consideration at this point. Buy jets from trustworthy people (like EU), and if you want total defense independence start building the framework to build Canadian jets for when these ones approach EoL.

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      21 小时前

      Sane countries with coherent foreign policy release this type of messaging in advance of reversing a $70 billion dollar contract. The F35 deal is dead. The trillions of dollars worth of goodwill and brand damage Trump has done to the US is hard to fathom. He is like a category 5 hurricane crossing the US for 40 days and 40 nights. #UnitedStatesOfEmbarrassment

  • ɔiƚoxɘup@infosec.pub
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    23 小时前

    I read that it’s trivially easy for the US to remotely disable those planes. Seems like a security concern to use them.

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      They can’t shut them off. They can do something like MS is doing with EOLing Windows 10 tho. No more security updates, which in this case means they’d over time become more vulnerable to adversary ECM jamming.

      They could cut off a country from getting parts needed to keep the planes flying which is actually more significant. It wouldn’t be easy, but a country could replace the computer systems in a jet. A military has it’s own technicians maintain their equipment and they would understand which signals are needed from the cockpit to make the plane work.

      The Lockheed Martin could shut down the planes thing is FUD and isn’t convincing anyone in the know. The potential for cutting a country off from resupply is real, and the US has done that to Ukraine, a country in the middle of a war.

      • ɔiƚoxɘup@infosec.pub
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        11 小时前

        My understanding is that that plane needs to “call home” daily or it won’t work.

        I couldn’t find the article, but found a more recent one that basically agrees with you, except on the whole replacement of the computer systems. That plane took so long to complete and had so many problems, im betting it’s easier to design a new plane rather than reverse engineer this one but that’s neither here nor there.

        I think the largest issue is the over-dependence on the US military across the board which as you mentioned, we see playing out in the Ukraine already.

        Do you think the EU has what it takes to rebuild fast enough to stand up for themselves alone?

        I hope so. I’m not informed enough to know.

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      14 小时前

      That alone should be reason enough to not buy it. I bet it’s not even trivial to verify if that’s the case which gives even more reason to not go ahead with the purchase.

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    1 天前

    Not continuing to buy aircraft from a country whose current leader threatens with hostile action seems only 100% reasonable.

    I would advise them to keep the ones they have, though - given their current threat model, until the US president changes, they need a “red team” to practise against.

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      They should send their pilots to Ukraine to practice until the war with America starts

      Or Israel. The IDF might be too tough, though.

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    Canada needs to redirect most of its defence spending to asymmetric warfare. You know, the same advice US consultants give to Taiwan to make a PRC occupation more expensive to contemplate. Forget about big ticket items meant to support the US in its overseas wars; start investing in mines, guerilla equipment, etc.

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    I’d try and join one of the two European projects for a sixth gen fighter the main ones being Bae (Tempest) or Dassault/Airbus (FCAS).

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    Can the US shut down the planes from afar? Why would Canada submit to this purchase if that is a factor?