• RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Well fuck Singapore, you can’t even do drugs there. What’s the point of living in a freedomless police state that costs a fortune? Masochism?

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      1 year ago

      Cars are a significant source of pollution, and Singapore has space issues. Honestly, this is probably a good thing. The cultural thing we have going on with burning oil in the form of gasoline is going to kill everybody in the next few decades if we don’t work to stop climate change.

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      1 year ago

      I’m not one to defend Singapore much, but owning a car there is a very unnecessary luxury, so this is a pretty unfair reason to dislike Singapore (I can give you some better ones if you’d like).

      Honestly in other big cities (NYC, London) most people would benefit from a COE scheme keeping car traffic under control.

      • Praise Idleness@sh.itjust.works
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        1 year ago

        but owning a car there is a very unnecessary luxury

        I live in a huge urban city (about 10M ppl) with one of the best public transportation system in the world. Only real reason I NEED a car is a) when I go out of the city or b) move a lot of things.

        Even in the case of b), I use rental car something like this:

        It’s a compact car that can move some serious shit(image is the van version. you’ll normally have all the passenger seats like a normal car). Perfect car in the urban area imo. Bigger than that is honestly almost unjustifiable.

        I mean, fuck cars but people are not going to be ditching cars any time soon because it’s just darn nice to have, even when there’s public transportation readily available in basically anywhere in the city. Transitioning to reasonable cars like this might be something we can work on for the short term?

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      1 year ago

      I mean, as far as movement is concerned there’s a lot more freedom than in most of the US.

      Singapore, you can pretty much get around anywhere you want quickly, safely, and cheaply using any of a variety of transportation modes.

      US you’re forced to use a car and if you can’t afford one you can use someone else’s (taxi or rideshare) at a markup. Most people live in places that have no other viable modes, even though 80+% of people live in towns and cities that would have tons of alternatives pretty much anywhere else in the world (and would save money on their municipal budgets in so doing).

      Charging people for the social cost of their personal luxuries, especially luxuries that have immense social cost like cars, in order to fund social goods is not something so ridiculously unreasonable. You should probably pick something actually bad if you want to criticize Singapore.

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      1 year ago

      Lol, an American thinking they know best again.

      Meanwhile I took a rideshare from a site visit at 5:30pm and there was already some congestion on the expressway. I cannot imagine what it’d be like if it was a free-for-all for cars.