Yeah, like I don’t like what Hamas did or what they believe in aside from decolonization, but holy fuck Israel. Collective punishment is a war crime
well that opinion isn’t shiny but its a start
But the thing is Hamas fucked themselves and the people of Palestine with their recent attack. No one on an international level will bat an eye at what Israel does with the Palestine in the near future. Hamas knew that there would have to be a massive response from Israel but the attack was allowed to take place and no one in Palestine cared enough to stop it. Anyone innocent needs to flee for a border because the laws of physics are just going to play out now.
Yeah except they cant cross the border because Israel won’t let them.
Bibi has been itching for an excuse for these war crimes. And now he’s going to go hog wild.
Blame Egypt then. They were the ones to close the border crossing.
Ah it’s the bystanders that are at fault, not the perpetrator.
neither side can do good or will do good until a mixture of being forced to by others and being forced to by internal pressure, and the same is true of every country, including the USA, UK, Australia, etc…
“we’ve” all committed war crimes and genocides. “we” are no different.
That’s what peace accords are: a bunch of people who did terrible things agreeing on a moratorium and changing things going forward.
I’m shocked that a prominently Muslim country wouldn’t want to help their innocent friends.
the governments in those muslim countries are non-muslim dictators supported by the west. still shocked?
A Muslim stubs his toe and it’s a conspiracy from the evil West.
They aren’t allowed to leave. Stop trying to justify genocide please.
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The UN was created by superpowers who didn’t want it having the power to encroach on their sovereignty. It’s neutered by design.
And those superpowers wouldn’t have joined the UN if it didn’t have those limiters, which would have resulted in a neutered UN that way too.
I think people in general have unrealistic expectations of the UN. It’s not useless, I think it’s a good thing to have around, but they’re not going to come in and save the day when stuff like this happens.
Indeed, that is what had happened to the League of Nations and why the US never joined.
Also the UN is still an important platform where diplomatic relations are upheld even in dire situations. Even with Russia it is important to have some lines of discussion.
But but but I was told by Christians to fear the rise of one world government!!!
"UN peacekeeping missions operate in the most dangerous and difficult environments in the world, dealing with conflicts – or their aftermath – which others cannot or will not address. We can achieve what others can’t, but success is never guaranteed.
We have, built up an impressive record of peacekeeping achievements over more than 70 years of our existence, including winning the Nobel Peace Prize.
Since 1948, the UN has helped end conflicts and foster reconciliation by conducting successful peacekeeping operations in dozens of countries, including Cambodia, El Salvador, Guatemala, Mozambique, Namibia and Tajikistan.
UN peacekeeping has also made a real difference in other places with recently completed or on-going operations such as Sierra Leone, Burundi, Côte d’Ivoire, Timor-Leste, Liberia, Haiti and Kosovo. By providing basic security guarantees and responding to crises, these UN operations have supported political transitions and helped buttress fragile new state institutions. They have helped countries to close the chapter of conflict and open a path to normal development, even if major peacebuilding challenges remain.
In other instances, however, UN peacekeeping – and the response by the international community as a whole – have been challenged and found wanting, for instance in Somalia, Rwanda and the former Yugoslavia in the early 1990s. These setbacks provided important lessons for the international community when deciding how and when to deploy and support UN peacekeeping as a tool to restore and maintain international peace and security"
This is only touching on the peacekeeping aspect of the UN. They do lot of other work such as humanitarian aid, human rights, international law, sustainable development, and focus on climate change.
The UN isn’t perfect however it’s hard to ignore that it does have a net positive on the world. We can always work to make it better but I think saying that it’s useless isn’t true.
You can look up more of what the UN does on their website or feel free to find other sources on what they’ve done since they came to be.
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What a healthy way to have a conversation, I’m sure your a lovely person to be friends with
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Yes it’s to give a platform for genocidal dictatorships to voice their concerns.
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I don’t understand the point of the UN. They have no army. They can’t coordinate sanctions They can’t prevent or end wars
Does it even have a stated goal?
The UN is first and foremost just a forum for world leaders to communicate. The whole point is that everyone participates in it so it’s impossible for the institution itself to assume radical positions. It’s inherently a flawed system but it’s the best you can get right now with “superpowers” like the US, China and Russia.
Exactly. It’s to enable diplomacy instead of war.
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NO ERASE YOUR COMMENT. Make them look it up themselves
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The only thing it enables is further spread of lies.
It’s probably true that some of the countries that are members of the UN use that to spread misinformation and/or keeping the UN from doing a more effective job. However, to state that that’s the only thing the UN does is In my opinion is completely inaccurate. You’re welcome to look at my comments further up or go to the UN website yourself and see all the different areas that they make an impact in. Like I had said in another comment just because they aren’t perfect doesn’t mean they’re pointless. You’re welcome to come to your own conclusions, but I feel that the UN is a net positive in this world. I think it’s better to have the UN and actually work on improving it than to not have it at all.
This would be a good place to start if you’re curious about the mission statement of the UN. This website has a lot of good information about their areas of focus. https://www.un.org/en/our-work
The work of the UN focuses on five major areas. 1.Maintain International Peace and Security. 2.Protect Human Rights. 3.Deliver Humanitarian Aid. 3.Support Sustainable Development and Climate Action. 3.Uphold International Law
They have a lot of information on their website about all of these areas. I would highly suggest going and looking at information on their peacekeeping and how they’ve helped in that area. They are certainly far from perfect but that doesn’t make them pointless. They do a lot of good work and are making a net positive impact.
I hope the UN does something about this, like call for restraint, or caution against escalation. Maybe they could call for a vote to condemn violence against civilians. That ought to do the trick.
deeply distressed but won’t do a damn thing about it
In his defence, there’s not much he can do; Isreal has multiple veto powers supporting their genocide.
oh my… that will surely make a difference to the 2.3 million people held captive by the Israeli state
Don’t pretend like Hamas are the good guys.
This is a case where given the circumstances they absolutely are the good guys. They’re the only ones resisting the ethnic cleansing and war crimes. It just looks horrifying because the media considers the lives the colonized to be less than worthless so when they shoot back it’s seen as a massive act of aggression when really they’re just doing a fraction of what’s been done to them for the last decade.
They resist ethnic cleansing by raping and torturing hundreds of people, even children?
Because it’s totally OK when the other guys do it, get a hold of yourself.
Hamas have only been in power since 2008. Don’t act like it’s all their fault.
Why can’t people just look this stuff up. Hamas is not Palestine. They are a militant group created by the UAE and possibly Russia to further their own goals in the region and world. The people of Palestine, actual Palestinians, are victims of both Hamas and Israel and the world needs to stop blaming them for this.
Well, Hamas was voted strongest party in 2006 or 2008 (can’t remember exactly) with ~45% votes.
When more than half of the population of the Gaza strip are children and the elderly, any voting is just not legitimate. It’s like saying China runs fair elections.
That approval rating has only gone up as the violence against them has ramped up. I think it’s in the 60s now.
Most likely yeah. But I couldn’t find any newer approval ratings.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
UNITED NATIONS, Oct 9 (Reuters) - United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said on Monday he was “deeply distressed” by an announcement that Israel will initiate a complete siege of the Gaza Strip following an attack by the Palestinian Islamist group Hamas over the weekend.
“I am deeply distressed by today’s announcement that Israel will initiate a complete siege of the Gaza Strip, nothing allowed in – no electricity, food, or fuel,” Guterres said.
Guterres said the situation in Gaza was “extremely dire” before the surprise assault by the militant group, adding that it will “only deteriorate exponentially.”
“I urge all sides and the relevant parties to allow United Nations access to deliver urgent humanitarian assistance to Palestinian civilians trapped and helpless in the Gaza Strip,” he said while appealing to the international community to mobilize immediate humanitarian support.
Hamas gunmen burst across the fence from Gaza on Saturday, killing Israeli soldiers and civilians and taking dozens of hostages back to the coastal enclave.
Israel responded with its heaviest bombardment of Gaza and could be contemplating a ground assault on the territory it withdrew from nearly two decades ago after 38 years of occupation.
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