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    It’s not oversimplified. It’s a statement of principles.

    The reality of our world is that murderers walk free all the time. But saying “x caused y and we should fix the root cause of this” is wildly different than saying “can you blame him?” Because the answer to that is yes! You can blame him for choosing violence and choosing terror.

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      1 year ago

      What did this hypothetical boy choose violence over? What should he have done instead?

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        If you truly believe that violence is the only answer the Palestinians have, then you’ve given up any hope for peace.

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          Feel free to answer my question on what other choice the boy has but to fight.

          Because the only other option I see in this boy is to die. Either self-inflicted, at the hands or those who liked your father, or slowly by starvation and disease.

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            9 months ago

            I’ll answer your question and hopefully you’ll answer mine.

            The hypothetical boy could choose life. He could work in agriculture, or study, or literally just live his life. Palestinians are not starving on a daily basis, and certainly not in the west bank. He can go on with his life, get married, have kids, and literally choose to move on and not take violent revenge.

            Now my question for you: do you support Hamas?

            I ask because It sounds like you drank the Hamas koolaid. Their charter literally state that every Palestinian must engage in violent resistance, and have no alternative.

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              Oh he could just choose life like the drug addicts in trainspotting! I feel so silly not realizing that living under occupation is the same as having an addiction.

              He could work in agriculture…where? On the farms that are being stolen from him and his people?

              He could go on with life…in the rubble of his bombed city until it’s unceremoniously cut short by the occupiers who have killed so many people around him. It’s hilarious that you’re trying to take the moral high ground while including a that clearly derogatory part about marriage.

              You must think you sound really smart right now but you’re not having this conversation is good faith and it’s painfully obvious to anyone with a brain. “Hurr durr you must support Hamas because you understand why someone living under occupation would rebel” is the stance of a fuckin idiot. None of your “suggestions” are grounded in the reality that Gaza is getting leveled. Get bent, dude. If either one of us is supporting terrorism, it’s you.

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